On 2009-12-07 17:16, Light404 wrote:
Fighting kluth period is frustrating enough without having to worry if a transport is going to decloak beneath you,

or a ugto transport will point jump you and unload.

Now, your suggesting the game get degraded even further by saying tranny rushing is legit (especially against player's ships) and not an exploit?

On 2009-12-07 19:30, Fattierob wrote:

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On 2009-12-07 17:16, Light404 wrote: Fighting kluth period is frustrating enough without having to worry if a transport is going to decloak beneath you,

How did a transport manage to slip by your fleet again?

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or a ugto transport will point jump you and unload.

And the interdictor in your fleet is doing what?

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Now, your suggesting the game get degraded even further by saying tranny rushing is legit (especially against player's ships) and not an exploit?

Your calling tranny rushing an exploit because you're losing to it? Next thing you'll be telling me is that enemy ships have weapons is an exploit.

On 2009-12-07 19:30, Fattierob wrote:

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On 2009-12-07 17:16, Light404 wrote: Fighting kluth period is frustrating enough without having to worry if a transport is going to decloak beneath you,

How did a transport manage to slip by your fleet again?

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or a ugto transport will point jump you and unload.

And the interdictor in your fleet is doing what?

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Now, your suggesting the game get degraded even further by saying tranny rushing is legit (especially against player's ships) and not an exploit?

Your calling tranny rushing an exploit because you're losing to it? Next thing you'll be telling me is that enemy ships have weapons is an exploit.

On 2009-12-07 17:16, Light404 wrote:
^^ That's a terrible idea. Using trannies to cap stations cause you don't want to fight them is absolute crap, and shows no respect for the player or the game. However, you're one of those same kluth players that instead of bombing a planet, will tranny rush it, so I guess that crap spewing from your mouth is to be expected.

All those sort of tactics accomplish is to force Darkspace's already slim player base away. Fighting kluth period is frustrating enough without having to worry if a transport is going to decloak beneath you, or a ugto transport will point jump you and unload. Now, your suggesting the game get degraded even further by saying tranny rushing is legit (especially against player's ships) and not an exploit?

I'll say tranny rushing is an acceptable practice when a minimum drop distance is enacted. "player must be 50gu/more to allow unload of cargo type "infantry""

On 2009-12-07 14:12, Azreal wrote:

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On 2009-12-07 13:58, Enterprise wrote: Yeah, damn all those people who choose to capture a station than try to kill it. Its not like its easier or tactically sound or anything. Should probably patch it so stations can't be captured anymore. That'll show them. -Ent

Off the mark as usual.

What they do is cram 30+ infantry on a station that the pilot himself can only drop 12 into. He can never even try to replace his infantry as they die off.

If it was your tranny of ten, and then another two infantry, vs his maximum of 12, then it's fair.

Right now, if 5 people wanted to they could drop 10 each at once on a station. Instant 50 vs 12!

Is THAT what you are sarcastically saying is NOT an exploit Ent? Because THAT is what I mean.

On 2009-12-08 08:56, Shigernafy wrote:
Again, you're missing the point. You don't pay, or indeed gain rank, to be invincible. Big ships are there to provide variety, different layouts, and added firepower -- but nowhere in the ship description, design documents, manual, or anywhere does it say that you should be invincible once you hit a certain level. No game has that.. sure, you gain more armor and weapons and whatever as you rank up, but there's still always a vulnerability.

Not to say that things are perfect. But just because you're bigger doesn't mean you're not supposed to have to worry at all about something smaller.

Develop a defense (other than whining for a nerf) and start fighting back.

On 2009-12-07 17:16, Light404 wrote:
^^ That's a terrible idea. Using trannies to cap stations cause you don't want to fight them is absolute crap, and shows no respect for the player or the game. However, you're one of those same kluth players that instead of bombing a planet, will tranny rush it, so I guess that crap spewing from your mouth is to be expected.

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On 2009-12-07 21:59, Light404 wrote:
Interdictors dont work all the time. I've been in the middle of a dictor field and able to jump, as well as seen opponents in our dictor field and jumping away/in

OK in comes the laws of motion and distance: You are in the middle of a 1000gu Dictor Field right? Right. And you see enemies coming and out of a diccy. Well your eyes are fooling you. They are proably further out than you think they are

And the devs are clearly out of the loop because they are still toting eccm as a viable way of detecting all kluth.

This is true.

ECCM can be effective against kluth, I've used it to good effect when in a large fleet, and even when alone, BUT only if that kluth ship happens to be a dread or station. Anything smaller and it will simply be to agile and fast to be tracked, let alone shot and destroyed.

This is also true. So get something agile and fast to help track it and bobs your uncle

And trannies can take a ridiculous amount of punishment, especialy in the hands of a skilled pilot. In the scenario server, TCOM managed to jump in approx 400 gu away from me (i'm in SS) and maneuver his way past my fire and an assault dread before unloading. Besides, when your in the middle of a firefight, no matter what ship your piloting, which one do you think will attract more attention: the EAD or siphon unloading into your ship, or a tranny flying around? (especially since trannies are so small they will barely register on your screen, a problem which is made much worse with far out zoom required to get a good view when your piloting a dread/station)

Don't zoom to far out. Don't manual fire. Click red Diamond and fire.

I'd like it to be noted only one of my ships have ever been capped. Its my Heavy cruiser and I forgot to load inf onto it. I still think that the tactic is bull?%!%&!*%.

Oh so your complaining about the fact that your HC got capped but not the fact that a tranny can supposedly dodge a bucket full of Qsts and Lasers but die in the end? This place is messed up.
[ This Message was edited by: Light404 on 2009-12-07 22:05 ]