On 2006-06-02 21:43, Bobamelius wrote:
I think WH fishing should be allowed as long as it's not being generated in a planet or the timer is being circumvented by SYing.

It's more of an annoyance than anything, besides that, unless you're actually strategic enough to keep a dictor and large fleet on the other side, or are in a nastily deffed planet cluster. In both of these instances it's possible to escape when you're fished.

On 2006-06-02 21:46, Bobamelius wrote:
Right. Turn around and fly back through it (obviously the planet def/enemy fleet will shoot you, but that's the whole point is it not?)

If in a station, make your own WH. If you don't have a WH gen on you or it's not charged, then, well, you're hosed.

On 2006-06-02 21:32, BackSlash *SL3* *Jack* wrote:
Over the past few weeks, wormhole fishing has become noticably more popular among certain players. I Am one of the Certain Players, and It is DAMN fun.

The problem with this, is that now, these certain players, are abusing a fault in the generation code to forcably remove dreadnaughts and stations from the playing field. If the enemy out number you, WormHole Fishing is a good tactic to remove some of the opposition.

The wormhole generator cruiser, has a noticably smaller random placement chance, and places it within 500 gu of target. A lot of pilots are just targeting an enemy station or dread over and over (usually two or more do this), and spawn wormholes untill they get the target. Because the hitbox of the station and dread are large, and random placement of the WH cruiser's generator is small, the chances of getting the target station/dread are quite high. I dont think there is anything wrong with it. For a WH Cruiser, there is a small chance that it will actualy hit on target. It usualy opens up 250gu, as happend earlier with you, and the pilot can safely move out of the way. If the pilot cannot, it is THEIR fault for going into the WH and what ever follows afterwards.

I see this as unacceptable. Because pilots cannot use skill to remove stations and dreadnaughts from the battle, people are now using wormhole cruisers to forcably remove them with ease and low risk - not using them as intended.Oh, me and coeus, only two active that commonly use WormHole Fishing, will usualy open a Wormhole, and if nothing is caught, we'll head back to battle. You may not see this, because you see one WormHole, log, and come rant about it, like this topic here.There are times where we dont realy have anything better to do, and will continue to open Wormholes.

Ontop of this, I've now seen (repeatidly) two ICC players (un-named) spawn wormholes INSIDE planets to try and instantly kill the target. Not even allowing them a chance to 180 and go back through, a certified kill if you get the random placement spot on. This is completly and utterly unacceptable, as it abuses a bug in the generation code. You should not be able to spawn a wormhole inside a planet or another ship. Faustus told us this when he coded the wormholes, and it's never worked properly. At first they failed too much, and now they don't fail at all. Infact, the chances of them failing are almost zero. Actualy, this doesnt kill anything below a station. Ask Feral, Coeus, Rangar, and that supply that was earlier caught. They spawn OUT of the planet and are safe. I only spawned One inside the planet, and Bob warned me. I told coeus, and we BOTH turned away fromt he planet.

This has got to stop. Not only is it unreasonable to do this, it's abusing a bug in the code, and this should be stopped immediatly.

- Jack

What happens if the target wormhole is on the fringes of a planet you're stationed at? You go back through, and you fly straight into it.

On 2006-06-02 22:01, Crimson {Fear?} wrote:

If the enemy out number you, WormHole Fishing is a good tactic to remove some of the opposition.

I dont think there is anything wrong with it. For a WH Cruiser, there is a small chance that it will actualy hit on target. It usualy opens up 250gu, as happend earlier with you, and the pilot can safely move out of the way. If the pilot cannot, it is THEIR fault for going into the WH and what ever follows afterwards.

Oh, me and coeus, only two active that commonly use WormHole Fishing, will usualy open a Wormhole, and if nothing is caught, we'll head back to battle. You may not see this, because you see one WormHole, log, and come rant about it, like this topic here.There are times where we dont realy have anything better to do, and will continue to open Wormholes.

Actualy, this doesnt kill anything below a station. Ask Feral, Coeus, Rangar, and that supply that was earlier caught. They spawn OUT of the planet and are safe. I only spawned One inside the planet, and Bob warned me. I told coeus, and we BOTH turned away fromt he planet.