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Pantheon
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|  Posted: 2012-03-18 15:48
Sounds like you have connection issues Flutter. If you have high ping, you have to remember that when you 'first' see the beams, may be half a second after they've hit you already. There's really nothing we can do to fix high latency.
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Fluttershy
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From: Fluttershy
| Posted: 2012-03-18 15:52
none of that matters when a ship point jumps you, or uncloaks on you.
I can't very well respond to something if I die before I see it, can I?
Scouts are depressing to fly. Fact.
Any deaths in one shouldn't be counted, or only 0.1 of a death.
I try and be useful in a non-combat role and I'm just punished for it by having a ship that has the hull integrity of tissue paper.
balloon in a brier patch lol
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Lithium
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Joined: June 29, 2003
Posts: 109
| Posted: 2012-03-18 16:05
Vice Admiral who complains weakness of a scout?
What a pretender.
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Fluttershy
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From: Fluttershy
| Posted: 2012-03-18 16:09
Is 217ms ping bad?
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BackSlash
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Galactic Navy
Joined: March 23, 2003
Posts: 11183
From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2012-03-18 16:35
FYI, you don't lose anything for dying in a scout.
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NoBoDx
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Joined: October 14, 2003
Posts: 784
From: Germany / NRW
| Posted: 2012-03-18 16:52
if you cant jump away, fly straight through the big ship with its flashlights
lasers dont do any damage, when you exit their fireing arc
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Fluttershy
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From: Fluttershy
| Posted: 2012-03-18 17:40
You've all given some great advice, and I thank you.
But none of these tactics mean anything when a dread can kill you before the server even updates their new position right next to you and firing.
Death is too immediate to take any course of action.
Yes I try and keep out of beam range.
Yes I keep my fingers on shift J and twitch at the slightest threatening movement.
And no it doesn't matter, they still get me if they want me.
Single-move check mates are bad...
[ This Message was edited by: Fluttershy on 2012-03-18 17:51 ]
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Brutality
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From: Alaska, USA
| Posted: 2012-03-18 20:09
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On 2012-03-18 17:40, Fluttershy wrote:
You've all given some great advice, and I thank you.
But none of these tactics mean anything when a dread can kill you before the server even updates their new position right next to you and firing.
Death is too immediate to take any course of action.
Yes I try and keep out of beam range.
Yes I keep my fingers on shift J and twitch at the slightest threatening movement.
And no it doesn't matter, they still get me if they want me.
Single-move check mates are bad...
[ This Message was edited by: Fluttershy on 2012-03-18 17:51 ]
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I have always thought of scouts as expendable, When you die, there is no press loss, and the attacker barely gains any either. I usually use them for beaconing bugs and in that instance I am fully prepared to die and spawn a brand new one. 
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Fatal Afro Man *NCO*
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| Posted: 2012-03-18 20:31
Have you considered not flying small ships, and instead flying other LARGER non combat role ships? It would appear that eaither you don't have a good enough connection to fly small ships, or you don't yet know how to properly fly small ships.
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Talien
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Joined: May 11, 2010
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From: Michigan
| Posted: 2012-03-18 21:04
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On 2012-03-18 16:35, BackSlash (R33) wrote:
FYI, you don't lose anything for dying in a scout.
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Enhancements.
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NoBoDx
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From: Germany / NRW
| Posted: 2012-03-18 21:14
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On 2012-03-18 16:35, BackSlash (R33) wrote:
FYI, you don't lose anything for dying in a scout.
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Enhancements.
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ego-points
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Kenny_Naboo
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From: LobsterTown
| Posted: 2012-03-18 21:56
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On 2012-03-18 21:04, Talien wrote:
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Meh. Why bother with enh on a fragile ship.
They're already fast, relative stealthy, and pretty hard to hit.
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Fluttershy
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From: Fluttershy
| Posted: 2012-03-18 22:08
Well, see, what Brutality is mentioning is precisely the scenario in which I was in.
I go around with ECCM trying to drain the K'luth ships as much as possible, while sticking them with beacons whenever possible.
I assume it was effective because they started complaining over /yell about the new cloak mechanics.
So, when beaconing targets, death is to be expected?
If I'm just scouting, I don't die because I'm usually under ECM when not scanning.
Now if only we had an interdictor...
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Talien
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| Posted: 2012-03-18 22:27
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On 2012-03-18 21:56, Kenny_Naboo[+R] wrote:
Meh. Why bother with enh on a fragile ship.
They're already fast, relative stealthy, and pretty hard to hit.
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Meh. Why bother with enh on a gigantic ship?
They're already tough, have lots of firepower, and don't need to worry about stealth.
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Kenny_Naboo
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From: LobsterTown
| Posted: 2012-03-18 22:30
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On 2012-03-18 22:08, Fluttershy wrote:
Well, see, what Brutality is mentioning is precisely the scenario in which I was in.
I go around with ECCM trying to drain the K'luth ships as much as possible, while sticking them with beacons whenever possible.
I assume it was effective because they started complaining over /yell about the new cloak mechanics.
So, when beaconing targets, death is to be expected?
If I'm just scouting, I don't die because I'm usually under ECM when not scanning.
Now if only we had an interdictor...
[ This Message was edited by: Fluttershy on 2012-03-18 22:09 ]
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That's it. Scouts and interdictors were meant to work in pairs as a deterrent.
The problem is, everybody wants to fly combat. Not many players want to do the grunt work without the paycheck.
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