On 2011-09-19 02:53, Ravendark wrote:
exactly my point.

krill being nerfed because was "OP", then we can call EAD OP too. pantheon, its nothing personal, but even if you know all the numbers and accurate stats of the ead, in game it still is a mighty opponent. even thou, he many not have rotating armor and runs out of energy. well krill has no rotatin armor too, and that armor is weak already by its nature.

just like enemy cant do nothing about it, but run towards and hope it still lives by the time he gets in firing range, if krill starts to hammer from a distance.
thats how anyone else cant to anything if EAD jumps its target, cuz it has no absolute chance of winning if EAD has his first strike. i think getting trough its armor and taking down his hull, keeping enough energy to finish it...and even if that was possible, noone would survive that long in engagment.
here i predict someone will say, EADs is not supposed to die in one engagement. everything else can or at least takes nearly fatal damage (not speaking about stations). now OP krill? either nerf both or none. and give icc that special "OP" ship.. just my opinion.

you dont have to listen to every player QQ about every little thing. but consider opinions of Az, Defiance, Kenny, Ent...i've never seen them stacking boolsheestz.

On 2011-09-19 04:50, Defiance{CM7} wrote:
Ive thought enh should have disadvantages every since i first got my very first Adv engine tuner from a pirate elite way befor you could buy them.

Thought if someone had 8 of these things, it would be sick! (you hardly ever saw someone 8 matching adv enh befor you could buy them.) Coombi was the first i ever saw with em. Anyway.. i knew from that day that 8 of these babies would really tip ship balance. And i do say i was not wrong.

The problem with balancing enh.. is unknown, undesirable affects that players did not anticipate when they baught the enh... Lots of angry mobsters would rise up. Lots of Refunds... lots of lost revenue...



if you guys remember me in that dev meeting, I said this.. and advocated astheic touches for credits such as textures, effects, emblems, and banners...

On 2011-09-19 07:49, Cap\'n Catbeard wrote:
Personally, I've always been in favour of enhancements being "tweaks" rather than straight-up make-stuff-better devices, on the simple logic that military-grade ships are already going to have the best technology money can buy and the limits are based on tradeoffs (speed versus protection, for example) rather than just being able to make a ship's attributes better for no cost in other areas.

So, for example, something that gives you more speed and acceleration does so by reducing the weight of armour the ship carries, meaning you have an enhancement that gives you (say) 5% more speed in exchange for 5% less armour. Admittedly there are some issues with a straight exchange like that (+50% is nowhere near the same as -50%), but you get the idea.

On 2011-09-19 11:50, Kenny_Naboo[+R] wrote:

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On 2011-09-19 07:49, Cap\'n Catbeard wrote: Personally, I've always been in favour of enhancements being "tweaks" rather than straight-up make-stuff-better devices, on the simple logic that military-grade ships are already going to have the best technology money can buy and the limits are based on tradeoffs (speed versus protection, for example) rather than just being able to make a ship's attributes better for no cost in other areas. So, for example, something that gives you more speed and acceleration does so by reducing the weight of armour the ship carries, meaning you have an enhancement that gives you (say) 5% more speed in exchange for 5% less armour. Admittedly there are some issues with a straight exchange like that (+50% is nowhere near the same as -50%), but you get the idea.

IMO, an acceptable tradeoff would prolly be +6% and -2%. I don't think a +6% and -6% will be very much liked.

Of course, it would also be nice to have the effects and counter-effects be somewhat related or make some sense.

Eg: +6% def for -2% turn rate or speed
+6% weap multi for -2% energy efficiency
or +6% speed for -2% defense

On 2011-09-20 15:30, chlorophyll wrote:
Suddenly, this topic is turning to all about limiting and tweaking enhancements so that the ship is not going to be modified...

Whatsover, adjust the requirement for Krill please.

But wait a minute, then why do we bother archiving Privateer badge? Well, I suggest Siphon, EAD and AD. these super-extra dreads should require Privateer badge.

On 2011-09-20 15:30, chlorophyll wrote:
Suddenly, this topic is turning to all about limiting and tweaking enhancements so that the ship is not going to be modified...

Whatsover, adjust the requirement for Krill please.

But wait a minute, then why do we bother archiving Privateer badge? Well, I suggest Siphon, EAD and AD. these super-extra dreads should require Privateer badge.

On 2011-09-21 03:56, LoKi. wrote:
This is why I quited playing.