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Enterprise
Chief Marshal
Joined: May 19, 2002
Posts: 2576
From: Hawthorne, Nevada
|  Posted: 2011-07-02 00:45
For the sake of sensibility, how far is it into the range of likelyhood that stats could round to the nearest whole number rather than showing as a decimal?
Not only does it look cleaner, it also makes more sense, since there is no such thing as half of a self-destruct or 1/5th of a kill.
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Shigernafy
Admiral
Joined: May 29, 2001
Posts: 5726
From: The Land of Taxation without Representation
| Posted: 2011-07-02 03:00
The stats are currently distributed as they are gained, so rounding [I]to the nearest whole number[i] would nearly always round down to 0, since you're dividing the numbers by a few. We'd have to revamp the system a bit to cache the stats or something then round as necessary, which I doubt would be worth the effort.
If you just want your profile screens to round down, that's an option, but they wouldn't then be accurate...
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Painfulangel
Grand Admiral
Joined: December 26, 2009
Posts: 188
From: Exathra
| Posted: 2011-07-02 05:10
i do not understand what you just wrote
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Tommas [ USF HunnyBunny ]
Chief Marshal
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Joined: February 04, 2006
Posts: 581
From: Norway
| Posted: 2011-07-02 05:21
Id agree, roundt up or down the numbers in profile so we dont see those long numbers in profile. Will clean up the stats and make it look alot better
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Enterprise
Chief Marshal
Joined: May 19, 2002
Posts: 2576
From: Hawthorne, Nevada
| Posted: 2011-07-02 07:35
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On 2011-07-02 03:00, Cave Johnson wrote:
The stats are currently distributed as they are gained, so rounding to the nearest whole number[i] would nearly always round down to 0, since you're dividing the numbers by a few. We'd have to revamp the system a bit to cache the stats or something then round as necessary, which I doubt would be worth the effort.
If you just want your profile screens to round down, that's an option, but they wouldn't then be accurate...
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I see what you're saying here. Hm.
It really would be too much trouble to go with the alternative, I'm sure that would tie up alot of time and resources.
It [i]may be better to simply invent grouping prestige, and round the current stats to the nearest whole number, and then let any prestige gained as a group be shown as that one stat. Which would then make much more sense.
Don't know how viable that is though.
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MrSparkle
Marshal
Joined: August 13, 2001
Posts: 1912
From: mrsparkle
| Posted: 2011-07-02 10:47
That would make the most sense, since then people would have to earn their badges.
Why not just make any grouped prestige bonus prestige? That stat has no use for someone who doesn't play scenario.
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Talien
Marshal
Templar Knights
Joined: May 11, 2010
Posts: 2044
From: Michigan
| Posted: 2011-07-02 11:54
Yeah. Disable stats gained through grouping and convert everything that you didn't do yourself into bonus pres, only add actual stats based on what you personally did.
Maybe there could also be a one time mass rounding to nearest whole of decimal stats in all profiles afterward, the decimals really do make it look rather silly.
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Nightsabre
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Joined: February 21, 2005
Posts: 66
| Posted: 2011-07-02 13:44
I agree with Talien on this. I would love to see all the decimals removed and grouped stats added as bonus.
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Shigernafy
Admiral
Joined: May 29, 2001
Posts: 5726
From: The Land of Taxation without Representation
| Posted: 2011-07-02 16:50
I happen to agree as well, but we fought the grouping=bonus prestige battle with Faustus back when grouping was in Beta, and lost.
Not to say we can't try again, but we staff who wanted that didn't get very far previously.
And I also agree with a one time rounding, because it looks rather odd indeed. Not all of them need to be rounded to a whole number - combat prestige is damage, for example, so it need not be. But I also don't understand how Steveyk has 726.648574999999 planet collisions, for example, or 42242.1204230034 jumps. Did he or did he not hit the planet, or jump? Fractions just don't make sense there so I suppose rounding.
Get more people to agitate for this and maybe we can "fix" it, but it'll take a lot of noise.
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Ray[OU]
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Joined: December 07, 2010
Posts: 189
From: Some where in deep space, From another galaxy. [Origin Unknown]
| Posted: 2011-07-02 16:59
how bout leave every thing how it is and be happy and concentrate on shooting instead pf looking at your stats and being killed!!! on the contrary it wud be good to be shown whole numbers then agsain i dont agree with making group pres bonus pres leave that how it is some ppl need help (need to group) to get higher in rank faster so there not telling you o well your in a station you shud do thisa and that and this and that im just in a lil o ship and cant do all that instead they get there station and say hay i cant do this and that and this and that in a station the small ship shud do it - Grand Admiral Ray [OU] has spoken
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Shigernafy
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From: The Land of Taxation without Representation
| Posted: 2011-07-02 17:16
And this is why seeing a player in a station is no guarantee they have a clue what they're doing.
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Gauthus
Grand Admiral
Joined: October 07, 2010
Posts: 10
| Posted: 2011-07-02 17:32
I'd have to say just leave it alone. Once you get used to it, I like the accuracy of the stats
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Gejaheline
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Joined: March 19, 2005
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From: UGTO MUNIN HQ, Mars
| Posted: 2011-07-02 19:01
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On 2011-07-02 16:50, Cave Johnson wrote:
I happen to agree as well, but we fought the grouping=bonus prestige battle with Faustus back when grouping was in Beta, and lost.
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I made a suggestion that essentially suggested this (as well as making grouping more tempting) here, but everyone for some reason got distracted by talking about interdictors.
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Enterprise
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Joined: May 19, 2002
Posts: 2576
From: Hawthorne, Nevada
| Posted: 2011-07-02 19:29
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On 2011-07-02 19:01, Gejaheline wrote:
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On 2011-07-02 16:50, Cave Johnson wrote:
I happen to agree as well, but we fought the grouping=bonus prestige battle with Faustus back when grouping was in Beta, and lost.
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I made a suggestion that essentially suggested this (as well as making grouping more tempting) here, but everyone for some reason got distracted by talking about interdictors.
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Thread derailment is always a problem.
What was Faustus's main objection to an alternative way to grouping prestige if I might ask? It seems alot more logical.
And while the stats now may be accurate, they also don't make sense. That, and badges really should be earned on a personal basis.
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MrSparkle
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Posts: 1912
From: mrsparkle
| Posted: 2011-07-03 10:35
I've been suggesting making grouped prestige bonus only ever since I first heard grouping was coming back (look up the posts if you don't believe me  ).
But, if Faustus wants it this way, then this way it shall be.
I did think of a possible problem with making it bonus prestige though: Would any badge points a person earn for himself get reduced when being grouped? The badge points aren't shared, but how would they be calculated?
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