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Gejaheline
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From: UGTO MUNIN HQ, Mars
|  Posted: 2010-08-18 10:54
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On 2010-08-18 09:21, Light-of-Aurora wrote:
Isn't one end of a wormhole supposed to be a black hole?
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VERY theoretically, it's maybe possible that you can use a black hole as a wormhole. Notably, this doesn't mean that all wormholes are black holes.
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Eledore Massis [R33]
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Templar Knights
Joined: May 26, 2002
Posts: 2694
From: tsohlacoLocalhost
| Posted: 2010-08-18 10:59
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| On 2010-08-18 07:05, Sixkiller wrote:
With or without jumpdrive?:p |
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You both should have remembered that i have done this in the recent versions.
Distance traveled: between the outer orbit rings of said systems.
Usage: UGTO or ICC Corvette. (no enhancements you fool!)
1.483
Map? 1 From Sol to CD: 24 + 6 hours.
(had to rejoin after daily reset so had to guess re-start point.)
Map? 2 From Sol to CD: 18 hours to the half way point.
Map? 2 From CD to Sirius: 21 hours.
Map? 3 From sol to CD: 23 hours.
1.500 (Using transfer gates)
Map1. From Sol to CD: 21 hours.
1.540 ??
Ill try it again when i am in the mood.
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Kanman
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Joined: August 26, 2005
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From: Virginia, United States
| Posted: 2010-08-18 11:08
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On 2010-08-18 04:49, Kenny_Naboo wrote:
Having a black hole somewhere would be interesting.
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Well.... I'm just babbling. Knowing the amount of work it would take.....
LOL
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I like these ideas as well and I do not think it is far from possible in the current game mechanics. We already have tractor beams, so we already have a means of moving a ship towards a certain point. Just make the connection line (tractor beam effect) invisible and make it stronger and the strength based on the distance from the center. Then make a black ball that blocks light (like a planet with a black surface). Ship destroyed when it hits the event horizon (same as planet collision). Perhaps warping to safety would or would not be possible (black hole could have dictor effect around it. That's up to the devs).
All in all, I do not see any NEW code that has to be written to bring in black holes. Just create a new object with a variety of tweaked features from other already existing objects. I would suggest a nebula arond the centered around the black hole as well, to creat the illusion of an accretion disk and make the black circle of the event horizon more visible and realistic looking.
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lefty97
Lieutenant Commander
Joined: August 16, 2010
Posts: 3
| Posted: 2010-08-18 18:14
thanks guys.
and actually, i was looking for more explanation to how big space is in this game, more specifics.
and shigernafy, it would just be some cool stuff to look at and visit to add some more variety. it probably wouldnt be all that important, but i can see how most of that stuff can be done based off of what we have now so i doubt it would take all that long to make them.
[ This Message was edited by: lefty97 on 2010-08-18 19:05 ]
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DubStep Santa
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Joined: July 23, 2004
Posts: 80
From: Atlanta GA
| Posted: 2010-08-18 18:42
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On 2010-08-18 11:08, Kanman wrote:
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On 2010-08-18 04:49, Kenny_Naboo wrote:
Having a black hole somewhere would be interesting.
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Well.... I'm just babbling. Knowing the amount of work it would take.....
LOL
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I like these ideas as well and I do not think it is far from possible in the current game mechanics. We already have tractor beams, so we already have a means of moving a ship towards a certain point. Just make the connection line (tractor beam effect) invisible and make it stronger and the strength based on the distance from the center. Then make a black ball that blocks light (like a planet with a black surface). Ship destroyed when it hits the event horizon (same as planet collision). Perhaps warping to safety would or would not be possible (black hole could have dictor effect around it. That's up to the devs).
All in all, I do not see any NEW code that has to be written to bring in black holes. Just create a new object with a variety of tweaked features from other already existing objects. I would suggest a nebula arond the centered around the black hole as well, to creat the illusion of an accretion disk and make the black circle of the event horizon more visible and realistic looking.
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this effect would need pixle shaders, refraction etc
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Killian Darkpaw
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Joined: February 06, 2009
Posts: 25
From: Newport, WA
| Posted: 2010-08-18 18:51
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1.483
Map? 1 From Sol to CD: 24 + 6 hours.
(had to rejoin after daily reset so had to guess re-start point.)
Map? 2 From Sol to CD: 18 hours to the half way point.
Map? 2 From CD to Sirius: 21 hours.
Map? 3 From sol to CD: 23 hours.
1.500 (Using transfer gates)
Map1. From Sol to CD: 21 hours.
1.540 ??
Ill try it again when i am in the mood.
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Lol nice one Ele... Might take you a while 
[ This Message was edited by: Vigilus on 2010-08-18 18:52 ]
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Wolfex
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| Posted: 2010-08-18 19:01
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On 2010-08-18 09:17, N'kra The Wolf wrote:
if memory serves, with the old star models making a pulsar was possible: one large star with a smaller star in a fast orbit around it. i think this is what luyten was originally.
however, with the new star models pulsars have been removed.
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Actually, ive seen this a few times as well.
In Scenario and in MV before everythign changed. One larger Sun with a Smaller Sun in orbit around it....... it was complicated to make a jump anywhere near it because most of the time it crossed into your Jump and you flew into it.
It did create a nice Zone where it was near impossible to Jump in and if you did you were on the brink of Death but still alive. cant remember who but someone tried following me in there and ended up running into the sun after i made it through
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Wolfex
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| Posted: 2010-08-18 19:05
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On 2010-08-18 18:14, lefty97 wrote:
thanks guys.
and actually, i was looking for more explanation to how big space is in this game, more specifics.
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Lets just say that its fairly big, maybe not infinite....... not yet >.>
but there is a very large space where Planets are Absent, and the only thing there is you and anyone else who follows
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lefty97
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| Posted: 2010-08-18 19:09
thanks, and i was wondering about this. since its not infinite, what happens when you leave the area? does it make you go back, like in LoZ wind waker, or does it loop and make you come out the other side of the map again? or is it just an endless empty space that has no point in going to?
also, i lost prestige, i was a 1st lieutenant, and now im 2nd...
is it a bug or am i just missing something here?
[ This Message was edited by: lefty97 on 2010-08-18 19:12 ]
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ADmiraLMaXimus (Bringer of Doom)
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Joined: March 09, 2002
Posts: 363
From: Earth
| Posted: 2010-08-18 20:57
According to my calculcations this new map system is approximately:
13,237,648,936,164 Square Galactic Units.
Galactic Units is based on the term used when we were able create our own maps in a previous version of DS of course. 
Considering that current science regulates that the term Astronomical Unit refers to the distance from our home planet to our sun then 93,000,000 miles is 1 AU.
In DS the distance from Earth to the sun aka Sol in roughly 7754 GU.
Making 7754 equal to 93,000,000 miles and 1 AU then in realative terms, space here is this map system is: 1707202596.88 square AU
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mandalore river
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Joined: July 22, 2010
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From: port angeles, washington, earth, sol, milkyway
| Posted: 2010-08-18 21:22
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On 2010-08-18 04:37, Marius Falix wrote:
Wopuld be kl to have a hidnt system, one out of maybe 100 people who got sucked into the blackhole would ever reach it...
would be rather epic, noone else would ever know 
gaifen hive? or something similiar?
something bristling with alien life no doubt... with a redish purple nebula near a sun.
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that would be so cool and scary
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Reznor
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| Posted: 2010-08-19 01:18
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On 2010-08-18 19:09, lefty97 wrote:
thanks, and i was wondering about this. since its not infinite, what happens when you leave the area? does it make you go back, like in LoZ wind waker, or does it loop and make you come out the other side of the map again? or is it just an endless empty space that has no point in going to?
also, i lost prestige, i was a 1st lieutenant, and now im 2nd...
is it a bug or am i just missing something here?
[ This Message was edited by: lefty97 on 2010-08-18 19:12 ]
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If you hit an edge of the square map, you start to slide in the direction of the angle you're flying towards. Since space is black and you have no points to look at, all you can see indicating this is your engine trail pointing the wrong way.
It's actually kinda funny lookin .
And getting stuck in the corner is always interesting, lol.
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