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Ravendark Marshal Sanity Assassins
Joined: July 01, 2010 Posts: 443
| Posted: 2010-07-12 12:16  
i just logged in for a 30min to pass my time. there was some battles goin on, and i needen prestige so....what else?? got there and fired upon first guy in red box. he jumped out, i followed. wasnt fully focused at the game, was installing some other thing in the mean time so i cloaked. then uncloak and give it a few round and cloak to see what goin on with the install. then i saw i was fired upon (cloaked?). my butt wasnt probed or anything, signature was just jumping. in the days when i played DS more often, this was caused by PING and was somehow wrong to use it for countering k'luth cloak (ILLEGAL). so...i was wondering is that still illegal or mr. fatal comand and his buddies had a right to ping rape my and try to blow me up when i tought i could take a dump?
hope someone can enlighten me with a answer to such a simple question
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BackSlash Marshal Galactic Navy
Joined: March 23, 2003 Posts: 11183 From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2010-07-12 12:20  
Pinging was a bug back in the day, and we didn't have the tools available to make changes to the game so we titled it an exploit.
When we decided to change it, we figured the actual ability to ping was not a bad idea but the ability to do it in quick succession was, so instead we applied a cooldown to the activation/deactivation of the device. That way we retain the interesting ability to ping, but restrain it so that it can only be done every so often.
Pinging is therefor completely legal now, and has been for some time.
[ This Message was edited by: BackSlash on 2010-07-12 12:21 ]
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Ravendark Marshal Sanity Assassins
Joined: July 01, 2010 Posts: 443
| Posted: 2010-07-12 12:25  
ok, so.... explain me this ping stuff. how long can someone ping? how long is cooldown?
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so that mean i can be pinged for 2 minutes constantly, being seen and fired upon?
to be clear im not complaining, i just want to be clear about this, i dont mind being killed, i just dont like being cheated and killed. or just cheated [ This Message was edited by: Ravendark on 2010-07-12 12:35 ]
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NoBoDx Grand Admiral
Joined: October 14, 2003 Posts: 784 From: Germany / NRW
| Posted: 2010-07-12 13:29  
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On 2010-07-12 12:25, Ravendark wrote:
ok, so.... explain me this ping stuff. how long can someone ping? how long is cooldown?
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every time someone turn his ECCM on, your sig will rise for a brief time... usually for a second or so
if he turn his ECCM directly off again, hell just have just to wait for the gadget cooldown to ping again
some ships come with more than one sensor-slots, grating the ability to ping multiple times in a row, if theyre activated one after another
ECCM-cooldown itself is tied to the ship (-class) where the gadget is installed
a scout can ping every 20 sec or so per ECCM , a dread can only ping every minute or so per ECCM
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SpaceAdmiral Grand Admiral
Joined: May 05, 2010 Posts: 1005
| Posted: 2010-07-12 15:06  
once my sig jumped so so fast while cloaked i think it was a bug
in less than half a second it went from 0 to 7.9 to 0 over and over again
seems that ship was bugged, i tried other ship and cloak was normal
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Lark of Serenity Grand Admiral Raven Warriors
Joined: June 02, 2002 Posts: 2516
| Posted: 2010-07-12 18:11  
ive had my sig bounce back and forth at impossibly fast speeds while under ECM on ICC. think theres a bug that crops up from time to time.
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Glaceon Fleet Admiral
Joined: January 08, 2010 Posts: 141
| Posted: 2010-07-13 02:08  
once when i was 2nd rear adm my sig was stuck to 728 for some reason?? lol
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Kaoschan Fleet Admiral Interstellar Cultural Confederation United
Joined: October 11, 2008 Posts: 133 From: Germany
| Posted: 2010-07-13 07:35  
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On 2010-07-12 18:11, Lark of Serenity wrote:
ive had my sig bounce back and forth at impossibly fast speeds while under ECM on ICC. think theres a bug that crops up from time to time.
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If your Energy hits 0.0 and you have ECM running. THe ECM will speed-flicker on/off creating a massiv bouncing signature.
Had this with my Bomber Frig.
-4.9 sig while at max speed and 4 ECM, yet after my Energy hits 0.0 my Signature started to bound between -4.9 and something abive 0, several times a second, till i slowed down and let my Energy get to 0.1
Seems the automatical shutfown of ECM does not work (like with the scanner)
I think the same happens with ECCM running at 0.0 Energy, creating some sort of mega-pinging
EDIT: gonna check it in beta
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SpaceAdmiral Grand Admiral
Joined: May 05, 2010 Posts: 1005
| Posted: 2010-07-13 14:28  
i got a fresh nymph with full energy, jumped to icc planet to kill some plats so we wont have 30 sensors waiting for us later on, when i exit jump i cloaked. my sig then started bouncing and enemy could see me fine.
Tried with another nymph it happened again.
Tried with scout and cloak worked.
I think once of the icc members was desynched and had a crazy eccm
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PhiliChez Admiral
Joined: April 12, 2010 Posts: 28
| Posted: 2010-07-13 17:50  
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On 2010-07-13 14:28, SpaceAdmiral wrote:
i got a fresh nymph with full energy, jumped to icc planet to kill some plats so we wont have 30 sensors waiting for us later on, when i exit jump i cloaked. my sig then started bouncing and enemy could see me fine.
Tried with another nymph it happened again.
Tried with scout and cloak worked.
I think once of the icc members was desynched and had a crazy eccm
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mebbe the sensor plats were working perfectly and u were seen, but i have not been kluth attacking planet with sensor plats so i dont know.
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Fatal HI NSA PadmaVajra *XO1* Chief Marshal Fatal Squadron
Joined: May 24, 2005 Posts: 184
| Posted: 2010-07-13 20:41  
" right to ping rape my and"
Rape is not a joke. This community needs to get that through their collective heads.
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Coeus {NCX-Charger} Admiral, I can't read, Sundered Weimeriners
Joined: February 16, 2004 Posts: 3635 From: South Philly
| Posted: 2010-07-13 20:48  
Out of context peanut gallery is out of context.
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to plunder (a place); despoil.
to seize, take, or carry off by force.
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1250–1300; (v.) ME rapen < AF raper < L rapere to seize, carry off by force, plunder; (n.) ME < AF ra ( a ) p ( e ), deriv. of raper |
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Context. It's important. [ This Message was edited by: Coeus {NCX-Charger} on 2010-07-13 20:52 ]
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Antra Admiral Agents
Joined: February 16, 2002 Posts: 657 From: Grand Rapids, Michigan
| Posted: 2010-07-13 21:08  
Dictionary definitions are not what people think of when they use that word. It's disgusting.
Padma, I complained about it several years ago and was shot down because the dictionary has multiple definitions for it.
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BackSlash Marshal Galactic Navy
Joined: March 23, 2003 Posts: 11183 From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2010-07-14 17:56  
Words evolve, as do their definitions.
Regardless of player's opinions on this, we have already made a statement regarding our stance of the word. Please read this thread for more information.
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