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Mr.Grim[Loyalist]
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From: Behind you
|  Posted: 2010-06-29 07:00
my opinion ban hammer all the noobs they ruin DS 
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NoBoDx
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Joined: October 14, 2003
Posts: 784
From: Germany / NRW
| Posted: 2010-06-29 07:09
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On 2010-06-29 06:40, Siginau wrote:
i wish stations and dreads would have no chance of hitting dessies and below at any efficiency ... but if they were standing still theyd be instagibbed.
so lots of damage but slow projectyles 
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um stations (almost) cant hit dessies, if they stay out of beam-range
see here for the ship-chart
-> dessies can avoid >2/3 of all incomming dmg
[ This Message was edited by: NoBoDx on 2010-06-29 07:11 ]
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Jar Jar Binks
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| Posted: 2010-06-29 09:16
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On 2010-06-28 17:38, Enterprise wrote:
and B.) We couldn't be seen.
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lol, oh how many clueless people in missile frigs i've killed that thought that was true....
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Kenny_Naboo
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Joined: January 11, 2010
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From: LobsterTown
| Posted: 2010-06-29 09:19
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On 2010-06-29 09:16, Jar Jar Binks wrote:
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On 2010-06-28 17:38, Enterprise wrote:
and B.) We couldn't be seen.
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lol, oh how many clueless people in missile frigs i've killed that thought that was true....
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LOL. Exactly. In F2, you can see their exhaust trails.... both ship and sparrow. Very distinct. 
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Schroedingers Gun
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Joined: April 24, 2010
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From: favour6
| Posted: 2010-06-29 09:56
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On 2010-06-29 09:19, Kenny_Naboo wrote:
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On 2010-06-29 09:16, Jar Jar Binks wrote:
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On 2010-06-28 17:38, Enterprise wrote:
and B.) We couldn't be seen.
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lol, oh how many clueless people in missile frigs i've killed that thought that was true....
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LOL. Exactly. In F2, you can see their exhaust trails.... both ship and sparrow. Very distinct.
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on f2 you can see the missle and up close you can visualy see the ship and its ECM rings and it trial if its moving
which is why if you are going to be seen any way you may as well MOVE
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Pakhos[+R]
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Joined: May 31, 2002
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From: Clean room lab
| Posted: 2010-06-29 11:46
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! shut up! now they will station jump to frigates!!!! NOOOOOOOO!!!
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Animyx
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Army Of Darkness
Joined: December 08, 2008
Posts: 108
From: Ground Zero
| Posted: 2010-06-29 12:31
righty then, time to crack out the assault dessie and pwn sum MFs then ill hop in my HF and shoot sum ICC peeps. see if i can gain enough pres (1k) to get admiral
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$yTHe {C?}
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Joined: September 29, 2002
Posts: 1292
From: Arlington, VA
| Posted: 2010-06-29 12:54
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On 2010-06-29 11:46, Pakhos wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! shut up! now they will station jump to frigates!!!! NOOOOOOOO!!!
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I do this already. Was I not supposed to?
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SpaceAdmiral
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Posts: 1005
| Posted: 2010-06-29 15:11
I don't get it, i truly dont. Ive seen ICC spam dreads and stations as much as if not more than UGTO. Yet we go ooooo look UGTO noobs in dreads! fly a diverse fleet!
but i see ICC having about 1 or 2 cruisers/dessie *the people with not enough rank* and 4 frigs *the missle frigs*, the rest are dreads/stations
Granted there are some *think 1 or 2* GAs or Fas and above which step into a smaller ship, however i see this on both ugto and icc, ugto more because icc just loves missle frigs
P.S. For those of you not able to use dreads saying missle frig is good because it encourages smaller ships, i predict you will scream "DREADS! I CAN GET DREADS!" the moment you hit VA or admiral
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Schroedingers Gun
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From: favour6
| Posted: 2010-06-29 15:49
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On 2010-06-29 15:11, SpaceAdmiral wrote:
I don't get it, i truly dont. Ive seen ICC spam dreads and stations as much as if not more than UGTO. Yet we go ooooo look UGTO noobs in dreads! fly a diverse fleet!
but i see ICC having about 1 or 2 cruisers/dessie *the people with not enough rank* and 4 frigs *the missle frigs*, the rest are dreads/stations
Granted there are some *think 1 or 2* GAs or Fas and above which step into a smaller ship, however i see this on both ugto and icc, ugto more because icc just loves missle frigs
P.S. For those of you not able to use dreads saying missle frig is good because it encourages smaller ships, i predict you will scream "DREADS! I CAN GET DREADS!" the moment you hit VA or admiral
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except i am an Admiral and have no garaged dreads i have a biggest i have is a HC, same goes for Talien as far as i am aware, small ships are fun, dreads are just bricks in space
[ This Message was edited by: Schroedingers Gun {SOE} on 2010-06-29 15:51 ]
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Iwancoppa
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| Posted: 2010-06-29 16:22
Wow. we now seam to have a "food chain"
dred>MF>Adessy>cruiser>dred
well, sortoff.
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Talien
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From: Michigan
| Posted: 2010-06-29 16:40
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On 2010-06-29 15:49, Schroedingers Gun {SOE} wrote:
except i am an Admiral and have no garaged dreads i have a biggest i have is a HC, same goes for Talien as far as i am aware, small ships are fun, dreads are just bricks in space
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Yup. The biggest ships I regularly use are Cruisers, very rarely I used to use a MD for planet defense but I don't even do that anymore because of lack of garage space.
Bardiche also likes smaller ships, I usually see him in a Missile Frigate or Assault Frigate.
[ This Message was edited by: Talien on 2010-06-29 16:42 ]
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Rebellion
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From: sol
| Posted: 2010-06-29 17:04
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On 2010-06-29 16:40, Talien wrote:
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On 2010-06-29 15:49, Schroedingers Gun {SOE} wrote:
except i am an Admiral and have no garaged dreads i have a biggest i have is a HC, same goes for Talien as far as i am aware, small ships are fun, dreads are just bricks in space
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Yup. The biggest ships I regularly use are Cruisers, very rarely I used to use a MD for planet defense but I don't even do that anymore because of lack of garage space.
Bardiche also likes smaller ships, I usually see him in a Missile Frigate or Assault Frigate.
[ This Message was edited by: Talien on 2010-06-29 16:42 ]
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So, you want us to ignore the Big ships the devs gave us? the key to this problem is not the exclusion of stations and dreads its the BALANCE not removal.
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Schroedingers Gun
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From: favour6
| Posted: 2010-06-29 17:08
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On 2010-06-29 16:40, Talien wrote:
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On 2010-06-29 15:49, Schroedingers Gun {SOE} wrote:
except i am an Admiral and have no garaged dreads i have a biggest i have is a HC, same goes for Talien as far as i am aware, small ships are fun, dreads are just bricks in space
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Yup. The biggest ships I regularly use are Cruisers, very rarely I used to use a MD for planet defense but I don't even do that anymore because of lack of garage space.
Bardiche also likes smaller ships, I usually see him in a Missile Frigate or Assault Frigate.
[ This Message was edited by: Talien on 2010-06-29 16:42 ]
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to put in simple terms Dreads are big slow bricks all the style and finesse of...bricks
frigates/scouts are faster, more fun, less brick like and more fun.
unless the ICC AD moves like a cruiser i don't want it
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Phellan
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From: Red Light District
| Posted: 2010-06-29 19:21
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On 2010-06-29 06:40, Siginau wrote:
i wish stations and dreads would have no chance of hitting dessies and below at any efficiency ... but if they were standing still theyd be instagibbed.
so lots of damage but slow projectyles
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Stations and dreads already have little chance of hitting dessies and below enough to kill them, unless you get caught in a point blank alpha or they play leapfrog with a couple of dreads. Just fly a little further back, dodge, and don't try to tank with a frigate...THAT is what the role of a dreadnought should be but people end up trying to dogfight with it ;(
Also as has been said(I just read further lol) those who have dreads worked to get them. Make them harder to rank to, make them harder to spawn all at once, but don't nerf them entirely. Darkspace is one of the few games to allow such large ships; the lack of stradegy or teamwork is on the players.
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