On 2010-06-25 17:54, Starcommand of ICC *XO* wrote:
Scen, if I see a fleet mate I won't shoot unless fired unpon, then its all kinds of fun.

MV, those that are unfleeted I don't trust at all, since they may or may not be 100% loyal to ICC, and could "hop" whenever they felt like it. The factions do put a line, one that pools everyone into the 3 areas. You learn over time that most players of X faction aren't going to be honorable in what they do. Yet even then there are players that I myself like, ones that are red diamonds. Good to shoot at, yet even better to chat to or with. On the battlefield we are enemy's, but off, we are friends.

Yes there are even a few players that are on my side, that I really really wish I could ban from said faction. Certain players that just don't get what ICC really is, or what they are meant to do, and where ICC used to be. They also seem to have it all figured out and won't listen to some correction.

The other thing that comes up is rank. Back in the good days of DS, if you were an admiral you most certainly knew the game well by then, because it took you a long time to get there. Not because the pres rates were any diffrent, it was the pres LOSS that made things change. If you lost a ship, you really felt it, it wasn't what it is today. Now its like "oh I lost a ship, oh I gained PRES for the loss, lol lets do that again" and they come at you with ship after ship not caring if they lose it. Back then, if you lost a ship you basically lost ALL of that days work, and some of the days before. Losing a ship wasn't laughable, it was down right nasty. Which is why tractor scouts were pulled when nerfspace 1.5 came. Tractor scouts were a bane to anyone who was stupid enough to think he was safe orbiting a planet and AFK. This same attitude has returned as well, but this time with Kluth only. You pull out a ship that just died, your at 5 hull no armor, no shields and your in a supposed safe place. A lone luth Krill decloaks and nukes your ship in one alpha from 800 gu, you go boom. The player got almost next to hardly any pres, but the person who just died Loses full pres as if he had lost a full ship.

When I was a captain I knew how to build/bomb/supp and fight, the 4 basic functions of the entire game. Now your lucky to find anyone thats an Admiral that knows HALF of that. Really way too many players just skip ranks by doing nothing but combat alone. So when they are asked to do something else, they don't know how to do it. Some say they can't practice building in the MV, well DUH! MV isn't for learning the game, MV is where you take what you have learned AND PUT IT TO THE TEST.

On 2010-06-25 17:39, Sardaukar wrote:
My best friends tend to be my best enemies in game, so I'm fond of playfully insulting others. The trouble is a lot of players take it too seriously now : /.

Which is why tractor scouts were pulled when nerfspace 1.5 came.