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Mr_Morton
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|  Posted: 2010-05-26 07:31
ok so ive been playin for 2weeks as icc i love the long range aspect of icc. I, however, cannot get the hang of missiles. Mine never seem to hit my target and they just seem very sucky...yet i see people in a missle dessy getting kill after kill...so i want to know first off are missiles any good...second how to use them to their fullest effect...andlaslty which missile is best to use...thank you for any help you can give me.
Note: this was written on an iphone...please excuse typos. Thank you!!!
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Condemned
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Joined: February 27, 2006
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| Posted: 2010-05-26 07:38
Well, to start with, welcome to Dark Space!
There are more than 1 type of missile, if you are trying to shoot scouts/frigs with missiles and even some destroyers then you will have no avail as they track too slow (chase/predict movement), you shouldn't miss if you are aiming at cruisers/dreads/stations, I don't think lag can make missiles miss either.
Aim for the biggest ship you can, AR missiles for closer, IT for longer range.
Good luck! Hope you enjoy Dark Space!
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Kangaroosteak
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From: Somewhere...
| Posted: 2010-05-26 08:30
Just as Malevolence said, aim for the slowest, largest ship because they have trouble dodging missiles.
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Fatal Perihelion
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Joined: April 15, 2010
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| Posted: 2010-05-26 11:49
Also: If their are many enemy ships with point defense mode on
around your target, they will intercept your missiles with beams
before you hit.
The same with near enemy planets: if they have lots of defense bases
your missiles get intercepted.
AR missiles track better, but do less damage if i remind right.
So IT missiles suit better for larger static targets, doing more damage.
Then when you rank up to Admiral i think, you may use the improved
MK II versions of AR or IT. (Not sure if thats right, please correct me)
Sabbot dumbfire rockets look and sound cool, but they do very few damage,
to bad, i could hardly destroy a single Weapon Platform, with a
Missile Cruiser loaded full with Sabbots. If there is a thing needing a boost in this game, its the Sabot.
Then a Vice Admiral could use his MD for some fun close combat too.
Last but not least: if you fire alone your missiles are more likely to get intercepted of course. If you spam missiles next to some station for
example, you are more likely to get through.
[ This Message was edited by: perihelion on 2010-05-26 11:51 ]
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Admiral Uhan
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From: Right behind you!
| Posted: 2010-05-26 12:02
Here is a tip to avoid IT missiles just slow down and deativate any running
sig increasers
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Lark of Serenity
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Joined: June 02, 2002
Posts: 2516
| Posted: 2010-05-26 14:28
yeah sabots are useless as they are now. too slow and too little damage.
but yes, missiles...
as said ARs track better than ITs. you will also eventually get access to PCMs, which are slower and poorer tracking than ITs but pack a punch. to get them to hit you should launch them first, wait a second, then launch your ITs: the ITs will take any PD hits and the PCMs will hit the target.
part of hitting a target is positioning. at longer range your missiles wont be in their firing arc, they will have settled into a straight line, and have a better chance of hitting. you can also try turning your ship to an angle to get some of your missiles to settle into a straight line faster. smaller ships can usually dodge a majority of the missiles though so its best to pay them little attention.
the major problem with missiles and fighters is that if the ship goes to 0 or less sig (kluth cloak or ECM) the missiles explode instead of continuing to track. its really annoying since other ships at least get their cannons and torpedoes out. anyways, if youre shooting at a station or stationary target you can get around this by ctrl-clicking behind them and shooting there. the missiles will impact their hull before reaching the point in space and wont explode when they cloak/go under ECM cover.
generally though if youre fighting kluth dont bother with missiles. this is unfortunate because its ICCs strongest play, and we are especially vulnerable to kluth, so its kind of a double handicap when we are fighting them. the best counter i can give is fly ships smaller than whatever kluth is fielding, since kluth generally cant shoot behind them so superior manoeuvarability means kluth cant do much about you. the other day i nearly killed a luth destroyer in a scout because he couldnt turn around fast enough to shoot me.
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Mr_Morton
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| Posted: 2010-05-26 21:24
Thanks so much for the quick replies! i have a couple of more questions thoigh. For a missle veesel are active or reactive shields better? And should there be an ecm...eecm...or the sensor thingy?? Thanks for the help!!
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Mr_Morton
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| Posted: 2010-05-26 21:29
Thanks so much for the quick replies! i have a couple of more questions thoigh. For a missle veesel are active or reactive shields better? And should there be an ecm...eecm...or the sensor thingy?? Thanks for the help!!
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Kenny_Naboo
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From: LobsterTown
| Posted: 2010-05-26 21:37
Unfortunately, ECM and ECCM in DS do not work the way their real-life counterparts do.....
IRL, ECM works to jam radar, but announces your presence to the entire world. After all, everyone will know something's up when their screens turn to hash.
And ECCM ... or EPM, is a counter to ECM.... to burn thru the jamming by various techniques.
In DS.... well... ECM works more like a stealth coating, to reduce your signature.
While ECCM is a bit more accurate, in that it acts like a rudimentary radar booster to counter sig reduction.
It's flawed, but it's the game. :-3
[ This Message was edited by: Kenny_Naboo on 2010-05-26 21:39 ]
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Kangaroosteak
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| Posted: 2010-05-26 21:38
For the active and reactive shields, the reactive ones (If i remember correctly) have a lot less shield than the active shield, but save lots of energy and recharges 3 times faster, so it's your choise on which ones to use.
For the sensors, the eccm is great vs kluth, being able to cancel out their cloak for a small amount of time, the scanners is good for bombing planets or finding super long range targets, and ecm is good for long range peple who like to shoot without being seen.
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Mr_Morton
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| Posted: 2010-05-26 22:00
Dang talk about fast replies...thanks again...but i just saw a guide that said missles suck 0.0 can this be true!!!
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Kenny_Naboo
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From: LobsterTown
| Posted: 2010-05-26 22:22
Missiles currently SD when they lose lock on their target.
Maybe what could be changed is that missiles either
1) Continue to the target's last known location and SD there
2) Continue to the last known location and circle, trying to reacquire
Coding could be tough for option 2, though.
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Jamesbond
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From: Venice Florida
| Posted: 2010-05-27 00:22
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On 2010-05-26 22:00, Mr_Morton wrote:
Dang talk about fast replies...thanks again...but i just saw a guide that said missles suck 0.0 can this be true!!!
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A single dessie/cruiser ship with missles doesnt do that much damage to ships overall but when you have icc sitting in 2-3 missle dreads and a station, all shooting tons of it missles they are very very very very powerful. So do not believe that guide lol
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Fatal Command (CO)
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| Posted: 2010-05-27 04:56
dont forget...ITs do some nice aoe damage as well...target close to the luthie (preferably behind em if they stationary..in front if they are moving)...fire...wait til the missles in range and then detonate em and wala...splash damaged enemy,same with fast movers...wait til missles are on em and detonate em..3-5 salvos will make any scout.frig/dessie move away.
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Mr_Morton
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| Posted: 2010-05-27 06:33
That is an awesome trick with the detonations!! Thank you all for the help and the ridiculosly fast replies.
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