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xTx
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Joined: September 10, 2005
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From: Canada
|  Posted: 2010-03-10 05:49
Pakhos is right, the ship balance in the game is about as good as it is going to get. The one major problem with balance in the game is enhancements.Super ships full of blue enhancements against ships with none are causing an extreme imbalance in the game.
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Zero28
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| Posted: 2010-03-10 19:22
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On 2010-03-09 21:23, Kenny_Naboo wrote:
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On 2010-03-09 15:21, Doran wrote:
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Unfortunately, having a dictor cruiser in the area can cause some ppl to simply log off and avoid fights.
Something about "killing the fun"... just cos they can't jump out to avoid dying.
So some players will unofficially agree to not deploy dictors and then start "urging" their teammates to get rid of their dictors.
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Urging them the hard way with core weapons in there behinds
Yes i was told by an RSM member that he will make sure that all Dictor will be Teamkilled on his side as PB's team kill theres so they won't "kill the fun"
PS: apparently the Defenitions of fun in Darkspace= Pew Pew only
Sadly, tactics and strategy doesn't seem to fit at the moment, cept Kluth and there cloak but thats about it "Planet huggin not included"
SO not only that there weak defence overall, but there gonna get teamkilled by there own faction if pulled out
unless somethign can be done about that, forget the "Learn2dictor" thing.
[ This Message was edited by: Zero28 on 2010-03-10 19:25 ]
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Pakhos[+R]
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From: Clean room lab
| Posted: 2010-03-10 20:59
I am not against dictors. Infact i like to have one in my fleet. But again what is the point of having dictor in a fight 5 vs 5 max? Nobody would whine about dictors if we could have a nice player base to play.
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Zero28
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Joined: August 25, 2006
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| Posted: 2010-03-10 21:29
5 v5 ? i can think of plenty of reasons
You wanna gang someone and leave his friend whos ready to jump a bit off range
you wanna cover your Missile/station support}
Stop that Lobster from Ejumpping after his first decloak alpha and force him to recloak
need moar? MOAR??
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Pakhos[+R]
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From: Clean room lab
| Posted: 2010-03-10 22:21
you dont need to explain why to use dictors. Believe me i know better. But what is the point if those 5 enemies will log off after you pull a dico?
hope i could explain.
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Kenny_Naboo
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From: LobsterTown
| Posted: 2010-03-10 22:39
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On 2010-03-10 19:22, Zero28 wrote:
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On 2010-03-09 21:23, Kenny_Naboo wrote:
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On 2010-03-09 15:21, Doran wrote:
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Unfortunately, having a dictor cruiser in the area can cause some ppl to simply log off and avoid fights.
Something about "killing the fun"... just cos they can't jump out to avoid dying.
So some players will unofficially agree to not deploy dictors and then start "urging" their teammates to get rid of their dictors.
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Urging them the hard way with core weapons in there behinds
Yes i was told by an RSM member that he will make sure that all Dictor will be Teamkilled on his side as PB's team kill theres so they won't "kill the fun"
PS: apparently the Defenitions of fun in Darkspace= Pew Pew only
Sadly, tactics and strategy doesn't seem to fit at the moment, cept Kluth and there cloak but thats about it "Planet huggin not included"
SO not only that there weak defence overall, but there gonna get teamkilled by there own faction if pulled out
unless somethign can be done about that, forget the "Learn2dictor" thing.
[ This Message was edited by: Zero28 on 2010-03-10 19:25 ]
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Ahhhh... teamkilling. Yes.
Isn't that against the TOC in the first place?
If so, then we should report those players who teamkill for no other reason than so that the game is played "their way".
If I use a dico, I'll be sure to run Fraps to grab a screenie of the offender. 
Seriously, if you guys want dicos out, then petition it to the devs.
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Kenny_Naboo
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From: LobsterTown
| Posted: 2010-03-10 22:41
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On 2010-03-10 20:59, Pakhos wrote:
I am not against dictors. Infact i like to have one in my fleet. But again what is the point of having dictor in a fight 5 vs 5 max? Nobody would whine about dictors if we could have a nice player base to play.
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As you said. The ships are fine.
The problem isn't attributed to tactics. It ain't the ships either.
What's left? It's in the players' attitude.
What's wrong if you see a dictor? U kill it first. Make it your priority target. That's what I do when I see a dico.
But instead, they choose to log/whine/teamkill.
Utterly ridiculous.
[ This Message was edited by: Kenny_Naboo on 2010-03-10 22:42 ]
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Pakhos[+R]
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From: Clean room lab
| Posted: 2010-03-10 23:32
Well i wont try to explain more after this post , i am about to give up.
I dont care if there is dico. I like the challenge of being chased with a dico , sensor scout and 4 dreads behind me.
BUT i do care if people logs because of someone flies dico and I CANT find nobody to shoot , pew pew,blow.
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Kenny_Naboo
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From: LobsterTown
| Posted: 2010-03-11 01:02
I understand u completely Pak.
But that only highlights the problem with the players. When they see a dictor, they log cos they're scared of dying and losing pres.
We should open a poll..... Remove Dictor cruisers from the game. Yes/No?
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Junky Da FunkyMonke
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| Posted: 2010-03-11 01:12
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On 2010-03-09 13:09, Nithis wrote:
I spend at least 6 hours in this game a day most days.
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Dude, you need to get a life its not healthy to spend that much time playing video games...
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Kenny_Naboo
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| Posted: 2010-03-11 03:03
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On 2010-03-10 05:49, xTx wrote:
Pakhos is right, the ship balance in the game is about as good as it is going to get. The one major problem with balance in the game is enhancements.Super ships full of blue enhancements against ships with none are causing an extreme imbalance in the game.
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Erm.
People worked hard for those enhancements. It just ain't right if you nerf them just 'cos they worked for it while others didn't, and are owning faces with the fruits of their labor.
The game is about as balanced as it can get in terms of tech and ships/equipment.
Now what we need to do is to balance player numbers, and their mindset/attitude.
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Zero28
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| Posted: 2010-03-11 17:26
Yea and i worked hard too and got nothign so wahts the point XD
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Doran
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From: The Gideon Unit
| Posted: 2010-03-11 19:17
op does not seem to be about dictors.
if topic is not about dictors, dictors are off topic
if off topic continues to page 3, i delete posts.
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xTx
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From: Canada
| Posted: 2010-03-11 20:29
To blame the dismal state of Darkspace on the mindset/ attitude of people is inane. Darkspace needs to be a game people want to play, as it is now that is not the case. Changes have to be made, thats a given. What is to be changed is the only question.
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Kenny_Naboo
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| Posted: 2010-03-11 21:03
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On 2010-03-11 20:29, xTx wrote:
To blame the dismal state of Darkspace on the mindset/ attitude of people is inane. Darkspace needs to be a game people want to play, as it is now that is not the case. Changes have to be made, thats a given. What is to be changed is the only question.
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What then would those changes be?
I hope it's not nerfing factions and ships so that everything becomes a clone of each other.
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