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Axianda The Royal
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From: Axianda
|  Posted: 2008-07-31 11:03
well why dont gaifen have such a thing?
a queen with small workers that attack nearby ships.
dear god im helping a lunatic gaifen breeder now...
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Deltabacon
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From: Liverpool, Great Britain
| Posted: 2008-07-31 11:18
its mods... they are plotting against us!!!
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Fattierob
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| Posted: 2008-07-31 13:04
so, Gaifen fighters where?
What would the name be for them, even ....?
Gaihters? Fighterfen's?
Gafighterens?
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From: happy land
| Posted: 2008-07-31 18:44
nah, we dont need more powerful fighters, we need fighters that actually fight. Rather than like shooting a couple missles which do fancy circles.
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Coeus
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From: Philly
| Posted: 2008-07-31 20:27
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On 2008-07-31 11:18, Deltaflyer wrote:
its mods... they are plotting against us!!!
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Boy... you might be retarded...
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Shigernafy
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From: The Land of Taxation without Representation
| Posted: 2008-07-31 21:02
Legally, Coeus. You might be legally retarded.
Anyway. Gaifen don't have fighters because AI is too dumb to use them; it just presses space, not N or B or Q or whatever.
Er, well, maybe. They do actually fire bombs too.
Also, missiles aren't REALLY all that much more lag-inducing than even something like cannons. You can't select cannons, its true, but they are an object the server has to create, track, and apply damage from just like a missile is - you can see in the editor "Particle Cannon" and whatnot shown during battles, for example.
It may have been a reason to remove missile fighters, but at least personally, I don't know how much of a concrete difference it makes.
But hey, every dev has their opinion. And we're apparently not coordinated in them. But I don't care what fighters fire, personally; just throwing that out there.
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Enterprise
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From: Hawthorne, Nevada
| Posted: 2008-07-31 22:13
Maybe because when they fire missiles they fire more than one of them. Ick.
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Shigernafy
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From: The Land of Taxation without Representation
| Posted: 2008-08-01 22:11
Cannons fire in bursts.
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From: happy land
| Posted: 2008-08-02 01:06
they could fire two ar missles
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Fornax
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From: Jacksonville, FL
| Posted: 2008-08-04 14:15
I do kinda like the idea of merging fighters into groups.
In 1.483 there's been a certain amount of systems inflation...usually quantity. The tendency is to boost everything which really just ends up being a boost to everything - the appearance of getting better while merely increasing the complexity.
I think ships should have groups of 1-3 fighters per squadron. Maintaining an additional attribute (that merely holds 4 possible values, 0,1,2 or 3) would be a 2 byte addition to the table while reducing the overhead from maintaining 1 or 2 other objects.
Frankly, there's more overhead maintaining object references than the 2 bytes from combining fighters.
This would drastically reduce the number of systems on ships like the Agincourt...but frankly, who really sends fighters at 6 different targets at the same time?
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Ospolos
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From: ON, CANADA
| Posted: 2008-08-04 18:52
Have fighters as a child to an invisible parent object which they are relative to, so it cuts down the load. Basically Fighter grouping (plus, groups look cool). That way they can stay the way they are, just an adjustment to their movement code, and still shoot their targets with their own weapons.
Edit: If large amounts of fighters seem too static, make them chase (client side chase ofcourse) that said parent object to create a smooth group movement
Each ship would have their own squad basically.
[ This Message was edited by: Ospolos on 2008-08-04 19:04 ]
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Eledore Massis [R33]
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From: tsohlacoLocalhost
| Posted: 2008-08-06 16:06
Just adding, that you people must not forget.
If you intend to group them they still need to be individual fighters.
I don't want to see a group of three fighters getting shot at by a single beam and only one would get hit but all three are destroyed.
That would make a nice blooper.
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