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Tael
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|  Posted: 2008-05-24 03:20
Cloaking times have been edited again, hopefully they are better this time around.
There will be a 1.5 second additional cloak timer implemented per beacon you have attatched, upto the 3 beacon limit after we test these new timers.
Otherwise K'Luth should have much faster cloak and decloak times in the May 24th evening build.
Sig does affect your initial cloak time. While you might have a 2 second cloak time in your scout when you are at 1 sig, it may take 3 or 4 seconds when your sig is at 5 due to eccm. (Beacon sig increases do not count towards your sig for this affect, hence the later addition of 1.5 seconds for beacons)
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Axianda The Royal
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From: Axianda
| Posted: 2008-05-24 03:55
so if im reading this right.
in the early days ECCM would have the power to completely kill a cloak.
right now a the ECCM will make sure a Kluth does not dissappear from sight right away when he cloaks.
giving the enemy time to attack it. however once cloaked you wont be able to find em again until the decloak again.
sorry if it doesnt make much sence didnt have coffee yet....
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|Kakashi|
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| Posted: 2008-05-24 05:36
lolwut
Wheres a univeral translater when you need one.
Im doomed.
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Fattierob
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| Posted: 2008-05-24 06:26
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lolwut
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Scout has 1 signature. It will cloak in 2 second
Scout has 5 signature (from ECCM or whatnot). It will cloak in 3-4 seconds.
Scout has 1 signature + 1 beacon. It will cloak in (1 + 1.5 = 2.5) seconds
Scout has 5 signature from ECCM + 1 beacon. It will cloak in (3 + 1.5 = 4.5) seconds
Beacon adds Signature, but a beacons added Signature is not used for cloaking calcuations (except adding an extra 1.5 seconds)
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Enterprise
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From: Hawthorne, Nevada
| Posted: 2008-05-24 08:54
Changes are brilliant I think. Gives alot more incentive to use EW devices like ECCM (for Humans) and ECM (for Kluth).
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Bitopherous
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| Posted: 2008-05-24 13:29
So with beacons attached, Kluth will still be able to cloak and lose the beacon? And their is a beacon limit that can be attached to a ship at any given time? Given enough ECM, beacons can be negated completely now, right?
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Ham&Swiss
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| Posted: 2008-05-25 20:36
I like this new cloak stuff. The cloak times in 483 are just plain annoying, as you can still see/shoot me 4-5 secs after i'm cloaked....oye and owww
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Shigernafy
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| Posted: 2008-05-25 21:27
There's a limit of 3 beacons for any given ship, yes.
ECM can increase the signature of beacons, but it won't affect the 1.5 second timer for cloaking. That is calculated independent of the sig-increasing effect (which doesn't count for cloaking).
Don't know if beacons go away upon cloaking...
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Faustus
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From: Austin, Texas
| Posted: 2008-05-25 23:57
Beacons do not go away on cloaking...
It just takes longer to cloak when you've been beaconed...
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Enterprise
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| Posted: 2008-05-26 00:42
Preliminary testing with Destroyers, Cruisers and Dreadnoughts has given me a good idea of how it works as it is.
Decloak timer is perfect in my opinion, its instantaneous or as close to it as possible, is the most overwhelmingly welcome change I have yet seen in .484. I love it.
I found the recloak timer to be too short however, Smartin can tell you how I used a Claw to decimate a Torp Cruiser simply because I could uncloak, fire at his rear, and recloak before he could even get a shot off, albeit I was running close to zero energy for most of the battle.
Cloak energy drain seems to be too much for smaller ships, but its just right for anything above Destroyers. I still do believe that the recloak should be lengthened a bit, but maybe its so short to encourage human ships to use mass ECCM, as even though most Kluth ships carry at least one EW slot to use as ECM they simply don't have the energy to run it and cloak at any decent speed.
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Tael
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| Posted: 2008-05-26 04:37
a couple of the changes made to encompass the beacons affected the recloak rate, we will be readjusting those numbers... The idea is, at sig 1, it should take a scout 2 seconds to cloak, a dread 6 seconds...
We will be tweaking the numbers over the next couple of weeks.
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Mr Black
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From: Gaifenland
| Posted: 2008-05-26 12:44
As a part of the cloak changes, ECM and ECCM devices now have a 9 second cool-down timer added to them. This is to be a counter to the ECM 'pinging' effect from constantly toggling those gadgets on and off and causing cloak to re-adjust.
We want to try keeping that effect in as a game play mechanic, and it also gives K'Luth a reason to use ECM themselves...
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Hellza - Dark Master
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| Posted: 2008-05-28 01:36
with the new cloak, is it still the same attacking wise?
we have to uncloak to be ordered to attack?
or we can attack whilst cloak (but we loose our cloaking)
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Axianda The Royal
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From: Axianda
| Posted: 2008-05-28 04:34
every time a kluth attacked me it had to uncloak to do so.
so its pretty safe to assume that is still the case 
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