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Lyedtau
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Joined: January 18, 2007
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From: Dev land
|  Posted: 2007-02-09 17:11
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=473335&page=1
Interesting read for those of you who are interested in gaming politics and such.
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Joined: December 11, 2005
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From: happy land
| Posted: 2007-02-09 17:18
your like gloating over this atm right? 
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Joined: March 03, 2004
Posts: 2673
| Posted: 2007-02-09 17:32
T20 wasn't fired, as he should have been. Of course, the whole reason this came out, was because of one persons "hacking" in alliance forums and such. He showed who the devs player chars were. Turned out to be a good thing. Kug(The hacker, who actually breaks a ton of laws, but due to living in indonesia, get's away with it) was banned, along with his 5 chars for this. Should see more info popping up soon. I'd give a site with a ton of info, but, seeing as this forum that it's posted on has swearing, the mods would probably prefer if I didn't. : P
Edit: Added wasn't. : P
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Pitch Black
Joined: March 18, 2004
Posts: 1895
From: Maryland, U.S.A
| Posted: 2007-02-09 17:51
BoB are cheaters, plain and simple.
I came into EvE, and found out ALOT of people hated BoB. After my first month or two, I heard alot of stories of what they do and why they are hated..
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Raven Warriors
Joined: March 03, 2004
Posts: 2673
| Posted: 2007-02-09 18:10
BoB are cheaters? Uhh, no crim. BoB are not cheaters. So, they had one dev, who ended up giving them BPOs, that he spawned for his own benefit. RKK didn't know they were gotten illegaly. Don't listen to all the Hate BoB drama and Tinfoil. BoB is simply an alliance filled with top of the line PvPers, so of course they beat everything(And everyone whines.). BoB does not cheat, plain and simple.
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Enterprise
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Joined: May 19, 2002
Posts: 2576
From: Hawthorne, Nevada
| Posted: 2007-02-09 18:20
Rev is BoB fanboi! Lynch him!
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Sundered Weimeriners
Joined: September 29, 2002
Posts: 1292
From: Arlington, VA
| Posted: 2007-02-09 19:46
BoB top of the line? Lulz, were you in TRW with us Rev? I know they're good, but the old FE, and 5, and G and IRON > BoB
P.S. LV FTW!
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Joined: March 18, 2004
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From: Maryland, U.S.A
| Posted: 2007-02-09 20:31
Yeah.. rev.. No.
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Mythica
Joined: May 30, 2003
Posts: 2449
From: United Kingdom
| Posted: 2007-02-09 20:32
The bit I am most interested in is the apparent Cynonet 'sharing'.
Now that they do have names to start from, it doesn't take a great deal of effort to trace each IP address used on an account, the times logged in and out, plot them on google maps and notice the glaringly obvious impossibility of players flying 400 miles in less than 30 mins and then logging back in.
It's labour intensive, but not precisely rocket science.
There is also a certain level of hypocrisy given that the "non-negotiable penalty of termination" for the developers action has in fact been negotiated down to a slap on the wrist. It is that point which is breaking a fair amount of trust between the player base and the publishers, and there is only one real solution the company can consider if it is to maintain a semblance of following it's own rules.
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Joined: March 18, 2004
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From: Maryland, U.S.A
| Posted: 2007-02-09 20:56
I dont think Developers should have an account ingame, or atleast in Corps. Theres always the chance they could do something like that, or worse..
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Drafell
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Mythica
Joined: May 30, 2003
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From: United Kingdom
| Posted: 2007-02-09 21:14
Actually, in a game like EvE with the level of complexity involved, it would be very difficult to properly balance and predict the outcome of changes if they did NOT play the game to it's full extent. To know what will and won't work you have to have an extremely good feel and understanding of the actual gameplay, and all the subtle nuances of interactions between all the game elements and mechanics. No amount of paper based examination can give you the same feedback as playing on a live server.
Barring Devs from playing on the live servers is probably one of the most stupid mistakes a development house can make.
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From: Maryland, U.S.A
| Posted: 2007-02-09 21:50
Which is why I added they atleast shouldnt be allowed in Corps, which well.. These things happen..
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Raven Warriors
Joined: March 03, 2004
Posts: 2673
| Posted: 2007-02-10 00:59
Sythe, all the old players moved corps. BoB at current, has no real rivals. (Except for the the 7 alliances VS BoB thing.) Crim, BoB don't cheat. You can't accuse them all of it because of one dev gone bad.
Ent, I'm not a BoB Fanboy. The only alliance I actually like, is IAC, and my alliance. I merely have a couple frinds who are in BoB, who are some of the best guys you could hope to meet on EvE.
Draf, you're dead right on the not alloweing devs to play issue. News is, all the CCP Brass(The head guys) were on vacation, so they were taking it slowly. He isn't being fired, because he was punished once. Should fire him anyways, like they did with the others. It sets a bad example if they don't.
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Joined: March 18, 2004
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From: Maryland, U.S.A
| Posted: 2007-02-10 01:04
I'm not accusing just because of the Dev, theres a few other reasons. Go read a few links posted in the EvE forums posted about BoB, with BoB players confessing to things..
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Leviatan
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Posts: 186
| Posted: 2007-02-10 01:33
BoB spawn faster than Massive Attack NPC's but drop a thousand times better loot. I have killed so many of them that it isnt even funny. If they were really "cheating", I dont think that I could have killed all of them, considering I had alot of close-call situations with them.
So just cut it. They are players just like everyone else.
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