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c0ld
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Joined: June 24, 2003
Posts: 342
From: UK
|  Posted: 2004-11-04 06:48
TEH CURENT SYSTEM OF R3S3TNG TEH MV 3VERY TIEM A FACTION WINS SEMS 2 MA A BIT OUT OF KEY WIT DA GMA!!1!! OMG SO HERES AN IEDA 2 LIEVN THNGS UP A WUT111!111 GOT ME THINKNG ABOUT THIS WAS ANTS IEDA ABOUT A NU MAP AFT3R TEH RASAT11!111 OMG WTF LOL HOW ABOUT MAKNG A FAATUR3 OF IT
FIRST1!!1!1 LOL START OF WIT DA C3NTR3 SYSTEMS SMALER THAN TEH CURENT MV AND R3S3MBLNG DA OLFASHION MV OF 1480!111111 WTF TAHT IS VAGUELY TRIANGULAR IN SHAEP LIEK SO.
IN!!1!!!1!!1!!!1 OMG LOL THIS MAP AVARYTHNG WORKS AS U EXPECT!111! OMG WTF THRE FACTIONS FIGHT AGANEST AACH OTH3R 2 WIEP AATH OTH3R TEH11!11!! OMG CHANG3 OCURS WHAN ON3 FACTION SUCEDS IN DONG THIS!1!!! WTF LOL CURANTLY THIS WUD RASULT IN A RASET BUT INST3AD MAH SUGESTION INVOLV3S CHANGNG TEH MAP AND TEH WAY DA BATLE IS THEYRE11!111 OMG WTF LOL R 3 EXTRA MAPS THESE R ACESED WHEN ONE OF TEH THRE FACTIONS R DAFAAETD
TH3SA1!!1111 OMG WTF AXTRA MAPS WORK DIF3RNTLY THAN DA MANE MV THEY R STRICTLY FACTION V ALEID FACTIONS SIMILAR 2 DA OLD SC3NARIOS OF HUMAN VS KLUTH11!11! WTF TEH ALIANC3S R DIF3RENT IN EACH WIN SCANARIO BUT CAN B STRICTLY DAFIEND
1!11!11 LOL KLUTH BAT A HUMAN SIED RESULTS IN KLUTH VS ALEID IC/UG2 SITUATION THIS IS FARELY OBVIOUS
2!1!111 WTF A HUMAN SIED BATS TEH OTH3R HUMAN SIED R3SULTS IN EITHAR IC VS KLUTH/UG2 OR UG2 VS KLUTH/IC
!1!!! OMG WTF LOL DA REASON FOR THIS IS LES OBVIOUS!1!111!1 OMG IF KLUTH LET ONE SIED WIN THEN THEY FAEC A MORE UNIETD/STRONGER 3NAMY!!!1! WTF LOL IT IS THEIR IN KLUTHS INTERESTS 2 KEP TEH HUMANS DIVIEDD!1!1! LOL BUT DA ALIANCA IS BY NO MAANS OPAN RATHAR ITS A CAES OF KLUTH SIELNTLY HELPNG ON3 SIED OR TEH OTHER!!11!1! WTF LOL THIS LAADS 2 ACUSIONS FROM BOTH HUMAN FACTIONS OF TEH OTHER BNG ALEID WIT DA ALEINS THUS MORA SEDS OF MISTRUST SOWN BY DA BUGS
3!1!11! WTF LOL DA LAST SCANARIO IS MORE DIFICULT EI HUMAN SIED BATS KLUTH1!!! OMG WTF LOL NEITHAR OF DA HUMAN SIEDS WUD HELP TEH KLUTH INSTEAD IT WUD R3SULT IN TEH SM3 AS SCENARIO 1 IC/UG2 VS KLUTH1!!! OMG WTF BUT KLUTH H3RE HAEV A MASIEV ADVANTAEG!11!1 OMG WTF LOL TEH HUMANS MAY HAEV SUCEDED IN PUSHNG KLUTH BAK BUT ONLY 2 SYSTAMS KLUTH HAEV ALR3ADY COLONIEZD IN THERE FLIGHT FROM DA 4TH FACTION LEGION!!11!!! OMG WTF LOL KLUTH THEYRE START TEH MAP WIT A FULY COLONIEZD MAP A STRONG D3F3NSIEV POSITION AND HUMANS MUST ATEMPT 2 TAEK AL OF TAHT FROM TH3M 2 D3STROY TH3M
SOME!!1!1 OMG LOL ADVANTAEGS OF THIS SYSTAM AER
A) AT ANY POINT IN TEH GME TEH MAP IS MUCH SMAL3R WHICH MEANS L3S LAG AND MOR3 INTENSA FIGHTNG
B)!1!!!! OMG THEIR WUD B AN ACTUAL POINT DO DESTROYNG A FACTION A WAY 2 WIN TEH GME!1!1 BUT IT GETS HARDER AS UR FACTION PROGRESES
C)1!!1!1 WTF LOL IT INH3RANTLY BALANC3S TEH FACTIONS11!1!! OMG WTF FOR INSTANC3 IF UG2 WERA OVER-POPULAETD THEY WUD NO DOUBT STEM-ROLAR ANOTH3R FACTION QUIKLY!11!11! OMG BUT IN THIS SYSTEM TH3Y WUD END UP FIGHTNG AN ALIANCA SO BALANCE IS R3S2RAD
D)!1111!! IT TEIS IN QUIET EASILY 2 DA BAKS2RY OF TEH GMA AND CAN B US3D AS A VEHICLA 2 INTRODUC3 S2RY-LIENS AND OF COURSA DA FORTH FACTION
WAL1!!!!11! WTF LOL ANYWAYS THEIR IT IS
1!1!!!!! OMG LOL
[ This Message was edited by: c0ldfury on 2004-12-09 16:28 ]
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Chubba
Grand Admiral
Joined: April 29, 2003
Posts: 293
From: Australia
| Posted: 2004-11-04 07:04
/me like it
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BackSlash
Marshal
Galactic Navy
Joined: March 23, 2003
Posts: 11183
From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2004-11-04 07:08
Seems ok, but we need a smaller MV not a bigger one.
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c0ld
Midshipman
Joined: June 24, 2003
Posts: 342
From: UK
| Posted: 2004-11-04 07:13
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On 2004-11-04 07:08, BackSlash {DA-UGTO} {=FI=} wrote:
Seems ok, but we need a smaller MV not a bigger one.
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SORY I SHUD B A BIT CLAAERR!!1!11!1 TEH MANE METAEVRS3 IN THIS SYSTAM IS CONSIEDRABL3 SMALER SIMILAR 2 DA OLD MV OF 1480!!!!111 HOW3V3R WH3N A FACTION D3FEATS ANOTH3R DA MATAEVRS3 IS CHANGAD WIT DA MANE MAP BNG SWOP3D 2 A DIFARENT MAP!1!1 LOL WHAN TAHT MAP IS WON TH3N DA MATAEVRSA RETURNS 2 NORMAL
AT!!!!111! WTF LOL NO POINT R AL 4 MAPS(MANE AND 3 BONUS) LIEV AT DA SME TIEM11!1! WTF LOL IT IS SIMILAR 2 TEH MAP ROTATION TAHT HAP3NS IN SC3NARIO 3XC3PT IT IS ENTIER SEC2RS AND NOT INDIVIDUAL SYST3MS TAHT R ROTAETD
TAEK!!!!11!1 OMG LOL FOR INSTANCE TEH SCANARIO WERE UG2 BAT IC!1!!11! LOL DA M3TAEVRSE WIL LOK SOM3THNG LIEK THIS 2WARD TEH 3ND.!!!!1!1!!111!!! OMG WTF LOL
WHEN UG2 TAEKS ICS LAST PLAENT TEH BONUS MAP IS UNLOK3D1!!!1 OMG WE THEN G3T AN ALIANCE BTWEN KLUTH AND IC!!!1!!! OMG WTF LOL
THASE BONUS MAPS DONT HAEV 2 B TEH SME AACH TIEM ROUND IC CUD FLE 2 ANYWHERE AND UG2 WUD FOLOW 2 FINISH DA JOB1111 OMG WTF COMP3TITIONS CAN B RUN 2 GET NU MAPS
ON1!!11! NU MAPS DA DEVS CUD PUT SOME BONUS M8RIAL IN TH3M FROM TEH START!!1!11 WTF LOL PLAENTS OWN3D BY AN ALEIN FLET CONTROLED BY A,E UNUSUAL AND UNIQUE TECHNOLOGY AN AVOLVNG DYNMIC S2RY-LIEN!!1111!! WTF THEIR R LOTS OF POSIBILITEIS!!1!11 OMG LOL WUT HAPENS FOR INSTANCA IF DA KLUTH STRAY 2 FAR BAK IN2 L3GION TEH?!!!??!?? BONUS MAP HAS 2 WIN SCENARIOS!1!!!1! LOL IF UG2 WIN TH3N DA REMNANTS OF KLUTH/IC CRAWL BAK 2 THEYRE HOM3 PLAENTS1111!! OMG IF DA ALIANCA WINS UG2 DO TEH SM3!!11!1 OMG WTF LOL EITHER WAY U WUD RATURN 2 A BRAND NU MANE METAEVRSE MAP
!1!! OMG WTF
[ This Message was edited by: c0ldfury on 2004-12-09 16:30 ]
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SuperGURU
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Joined: March 25, 2002
Posts: 131
From: Germany,NRW
| Posted: 2004-11-04 07:50
As long as it doesn't get to big, i like it
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Captain Sternn
Grand Admiral
Joined: March 18, 2004
Posts: 225
| Posted: 2004-11-04 07:55
an interesting idea...but does that mean that wormhole devices would be out? otherwise a faction could wh past the main fighting area and run rampant in an enemies backwater systems....avoiding the other enemy faction
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BackSlash
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Galactic Navy
Joined: March 23, 2003
Posts: 11183
From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2004-11-04 07:56
woah...
Map Rotation + MV wouldnt go together.
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c0ld
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Joined: June 24, 2003
Posts: 342
From: UK
| Posted: 2004-11-04 08:13
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On 2004-11-04 07:55, Captain Stern wrote:
an interesting idea...but does that mean that wormhole devices would be out? otherwise a faction could wh past the main fighting area and run rampant in an enemies backwater systems....avoiding the other enemy faction
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WORMHOLE DEVIECS WUD NOT B AFACTAD AT AL AS DA BONUS MAP DONT EXIST UNTIL A FACTION LOSES
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woah...
Map Rotation + MV wouldnt go together
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Y?!!?!?!? OMG
[ This Message was edited by: c0ldfury on 2004-12-09 16:31 ]
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Gideon
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Joined: September 14, 2001
Posts: 4604
From: Oregon, USA
| Posted: 2004-11-04 12:45
The idea of loaded maps runs totally counter to the concept of the Metaverse.
What is out of key, is the fact that Faustus has mandated that the MV will be a totally persistant, live, universe, and DS is running a game design built for a transient scenario game.
What needs to be done, is the core issues need to be addressed, and the core designes implemented, that allow DS to become what Faustus intends it to be. That is, a totally persistant universe, not a map-cycle universe.
Your proposal would be for a scenario universe, which is not the route we have been put on. Sorry, but hell no. Doing this would be working against ourselves, and would be a monumental waste of energy and time because of that.
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c0ld
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Joined: June 24, 2003
Posts: 342
From: UK
| Posted: 2004-11-04 13:40
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On 2004-11-04 12:45, Gideon wrote:
The idea of loaded maps runs totally counter to the concept of the Metaverse.
What is out of key, is the fact that Faustus has mandated that the MV will be a totally persistant, live, universe, and DS is running a game design built for a transient scenario game.
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I SE UR POINT GIEDON BUT IT WAS DA WHOLA PERSIESNC3 ISU3 TAHT PARTLY PROMPT3D THIS SUG3STION!1!!11 OMG WTF LOL 2 M3 IN SEMS RASETNG DA MV 3VERY F3W MONTHS DOAS NOTHNG FOR 3ITH3R P3RSISTANCE OR CONTINUITY
MORA1!!!11 OMG WTF LOL THAN THIS I FALE 2 SE HOW IT CAN B MAED P3RSISTANT WITHOUT MAKNG IT IMPOSIBLE 2 ACTUALY WIN DA GM311!!1!!! LOL BUT MAYB TAHT IS UR INT3NTION 2 MAEK A GM3 TAHT NO MAT3R HOW HARD U TRY AND WIT AL DA TEMWORK IN DA WORLD U 3F3CT NOTHNG1!!1!! WTF LOL DA R3ASON IMO AT LEAST SCANARIOS R STIL POPULAR IS TAHT U CAN WIN!!!1!!!! OMG WTF LOL I WUD LIEK 2 KNOW IF TAHT POSIBILITY WIL STIL B GIEVN 2 PLAEYRS IN DA MV IN FUTUR3???!!?? LOL
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On 2004-11-04 12:45, Gideon wrote:
What needs to be done, is the core issues need to be addressed, and the core designes implemented
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TAHT WUD B NIEC.
!!1!!!!!!!11!!1!!!11
[ This Message was edited by: c0ldfury on 2004-12-09 16:32 ]
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Diabo|ik
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Joined: August 16, 2002
Posts: 327
From: Quebec, Canada
| Posted: 2004-11-04 15:19
I think it's a great idea considering the balance of power but it could be done using the current MV map...
Your alliance scenarios remain the same but the reason behind the alliances change...
Say once a faction has taken over said % of the MV, then your conditions apply, same if a Faction gets critically below a certain % of the MV. Only difference is that we don't change the map, just change the alliance/threat flags.
It would balance the number of players per faction/side issue and give an extra challenge to be able to achieve a full MV conquest.
We don't need to change the map this way, just to add a few code lines that could automatically handle those situations in real-time. That way we could have real stories to talk about and a much less repetitive gameplay capping-wise.
Could this be implemented easily Gideon? And do you think it would fit in Palestar's philosophy about the MV mechanics?
[ This Message was edited by: Diabo|ik on 2004-11-04 15:31 ]
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Shippo
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Joined: July 04, 2004
Posts: 197
From: Texas, USA
| Posted: 2004-11-04 15:28
As for my opinion, Map Rotation and the MV will not go together. It doesn't seem right to do that. As the Metaverse is one huge map with many systems linked together. It's meant to stay on this one map no matter what.
As for the alliance, that isn't a bad idea. I'd agree about the % in order to achieve an allience.
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c0ld
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Posts: 342
From: UK
| Posted: 2004-11-04 15:43
AFAKE ALIANCES HAEV 2 B BUILT IN2 TEH MAP WIT TEH ADI2R
I!11!11 WTF LOL WISH I HAD SEN TAHT DA IEDA WORKAD INDAP3NDANTLY THO I WUDNT HAEV HAD 2 DO TH3M SILY PICTURES THAN1!1!!!! OMG LOL
[ This Message was edited by: c0ldfury on 2004-12-09 16:33 ]
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Fattierob
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Joined: April 25, 2003
Posts: 4059
| Posted: 2004-11-04 15:47
just chang the textures on planets and a couple of names
OR
Stop complaining
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Feralwulf
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Joined: January 24, 2004
Posts: 1729
From: sitting somewhere drinking beer
| Posted: 2004-11-04 16:53
Nice Idea.
But I personally have long been an advocate of NOT fighting in the jumpgated systems, and ONLY fighting in the systems that are not connected by gates.
I also think there should be more ungated systems (yep larger MV)
I think this would:
1) Create a fairly safe environment for Newbies to learn how to fly, build, mod, Bomb(revolts) etc.
2) Increase the number of large scale 3 faction battles (by far the most fun IMO)
3) create a more player to player friendly environment much like we had back in the old 1480 senarios days. ( I remember when if a player was promoted or got a badge he/she was gratz by EVERYONE)
4) negate the need for an MV reset
Oh yeah I know what you're gonna say.
"But wiping out the other faction is the whole point of the game!!  "
"But I wanna conquer Sol!!! "
"But I wanna Conquer Sirus!!:("
"But I wanna Conquer CD 36!! "
Well for me the whole "point" of the game is to have fun. I do not want to beat down the other faction to the point that NOBODY wants to play that faction anymore, and I can fly around the MV unchallenged.
I always have objected to entering Kluth or ICC jump gated systems, and in fact when UGTO had Kluth down to only a system or so I refused to continue fighting them. Why? because it wasn't fun anymore.
When UGTO/Kluth had the ICC down to ZERO planets and they shut down CD for 2 hours open to ICC only I created a 2nd account and I helped them, in fact HAD BEEN fighting with them against not only UGTO but my own fleet members for about 2 weeks at that time. Why? Because The ICC were dropping out left and right and the game had ceased to be fun for me.
I am UGTO and I suspect I always will be UGTO. My 1st loyalty is to my fleet, and 2nd is to UGTO...............But above all else I am here to have fun!
And I can't have fun if only ONE faction even wants to play in the MV.
Faction extermination MAY be the whole point to the game.............but for me that takes all the fun out of it.
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