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Station Elation With Axianda |
Ascension(Purge)
Admiral
Joined: March 04, 2003
Posts: 194
|  Posted: 2004-01-18 15:37
I think I speak for everyone when I say you have brought a new level or station elation. I personaly...umm...I DONT GETTA USE ONE!! *silent tears*
Ok now that Ive taken my medication lets continue.
Axianda has gratefully opened a *wormhole* of ideas and I wont deny that thanks to him I wouldnt have even considered talking about stations since I myself stink to bad to use them and am stuck as a first rear admiral (When I subscribe again Ill be one =) )
Well any-way now that I think about it the neccesity of multiple stations is enormouse but I am not going to go on about stations because thanks to Axianda that subject has sprouted many good and bad ideas in my head, so lets get right to it shall we?
Classes are not very equal and to emphasize the point look below:
Whatever scientist designed (Dreadnaughts) needs to go back to highschool. First of all the proportions of weapon to mass ratio are rediculouse. Take 15 scouts (Ranging classes) and you have a dread that weighs about 1/5 to 1/3 the original dread and has over three to six times its speed size ratio and everyone would start off with but the armor Jebus the armor is so little! Well the armor class ratio is ludicrouse and of course equiptment...so sad...so sad you can figure that ratio out urself.
(I'm sorry I may be totaly off I'll just say this now so I'm not so insulted my mommy has to hold my head as I cry "I just wanted a better Dark Space why cant they love me?!")
Lets say your got 15 scouts modified:
Unmodified/Modified
15 reactors/same
15 torps/same
45 energy cannons/60 energy cannons
30 eccm-ecm/60 eccm-ecm
15 sensor/60 sensor
15 beacons/60 beacons
15 light armor/15 heavy armor
15 mirv bombs/same
The proportion 15 recons should be equal to one Dread may be off a bit but you get the general Idea and its not just about dreads and recons the fact that proportionaly a recon only needs to fend off attacks and dreads are meant for massive seiges and attacks makes even less sence of the proportions. So either make the dread smaller and seem to be weak and pitiful like its attack to its size now or upgrade the armor factor the weapon factor and definately J-Drive recharge Why would any one ship have a slower J-Drive in hyperspace or wormholes mass is irrelevant and the energy to start the movement is also. Either a grain of sand or a universe all would take massive energy to "jump" regardless of mass. So here is my plea equalize all classes for their purpouses.
Dreads fight-more armor/offensive weapons
Recons scout-more anti sensor/sensor/speed
Transports transport-more armor/defensive weapons
etc...etc...etc...
BTW-If you dont change the speed of dreadnaughts say heck with it and dump their engines cause a little ship would get a little engine and a big ship would get a big engine same with weapons just increase factor by size.
Well now that everyones board and hates me so long.
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Axianda The Royal
Fleet Admiral
Terra Squadron
Joined: November 20, 2001
Posts: 4273
From: Axianda
| Posted: 2004-01-18 15:50
first of all thx luna * whipes tears away *.
First you gotta understand 2 things.
1. the wormhole idea IS NOT MINE... I heard gideon talk about it back then as a possible station drive and thought to include em straight away.
2. This post is from september 2003... currently a station from THAT post would get its behind seriously whooped by a dread/station that will appear in 1482.
as for the dreads being weak if you ask gid he'll agree on that 100% and then ask him for some specs on the UGTO Command Dread... the weakest dread ingame and believe me it gave me the chills...
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Tbone
Grand Admiral
Joined: July 21, 2001
Posts: 1756
From: Vancouver
| Posted: 2004-01-20 12:42
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| first of all thx luna * whipes tears away *.
First you gotta understand 2 things. |
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Shouldn't that be "Second you gotta..."? 
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Gideon
Cadet
Joined: September 14, 2001
Posts: 4604
From: Oregon, USA
| Posted: 2004-01-20 14:52
All good points, Luna.
We have worked up new values for our ship systems, and we hope to test them soon. I believe that these new values will return some logic to relative ship strength. Some testing will be required, of course, in order to work bugs and oversights out of it.
A rework of the jumpdrive system is not slated for inclusion with v1.482, but if it proves pressing enough, we can always add it in there.
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DarkestVorlon
Vice Admiral
Joined: October 17, 2002
Posts: 245
From: ICNV Rememberance CNCC-4021986
| Posted: 2004-01-26 04:43
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On 2004-01-20 14:52, Gideon wrote:
All good points, Luna.
We have worked up new values for our ship systems, and we hope to test them soon. I believe that these new values will return some logic to relative ship strength. Some testing will be required, of course, in order to work bugs and oversights out of it.
A rework of the jumpdrive system is not slated for inclusion with v1.482, but if it proves pressing enough, we can always add it in there.
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Some logic will be a infinity times infinity times the 2 billionth powerx100 improvement over the current (bottom line, a destroyer should never have a chance against a dreadnought if it comes into range)
Second:
Add it 
Would be nice to see stations havea true use other then speedcapping a system, since that is getting removed (as far as I know anyway) they will by and large be useless. Station in Darkspace = floating bullseye target. Atleast with a wormhole generator it will have some real use, plus being the only link back home, a fleet will protect thier station and keep it our of harms way, I.E. behind the front line.
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Dimorrow
Grand Admiral
Galactic Navy
Joined: September 25, 2003
Posts: 94
From: West Midlands UK
| Posted: 2004-01-26 06:35
lol dudes u guys never stop talking about changing the ships in the next patch. they are very good ideas i cant deny, but however u guys also dont stop moaning about how long this patch is taking to come out, and with you guys keep suggesting about new ideas etc etc it will never come out lol
You just cant keep asking and asking for everything and then expect it all to just happen, give them a break man lol
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Dimorrow
Grand Admiral
Galactic Navy
Joined: September 25, 2003
Posts: 94
From: West Midlands UK
| Posted: 2004-01-26 06:41
also u cant make this game anymore complicated than it actually is, its all ok you guys asking for mods that u can understand cos u thought them up. but all of your ideas will be confusing to new players and other ppl etc etc
everyday i keep seeing ppl suggesting new things and i think its just getting blown out of proportion
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