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Mr tinkles anti wibblinator
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Joined: October 13, 2002
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|  Posted: 2003-10-12 21:40
Shouldnt we have a weapon or a ship that can disable elf and flux for like 1000 GU like a dictor? my 2 cents
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Sandals
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From: Redmond,WA,USA
| Posted: 2003-10-12 21:49
we also need anti tractor shields!111!1!
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Thrie
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| Posted: 2003-10-12 22:00
For that matter... Why not modify the Pulse Shield to knock out 50% of Flux/Elf energy? 2 Pulse = Complete wipe of flux/elf and needs to recharge again?
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Thrie
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| Posted: 2003-10-12 22:01
Then again, I fear to even think how Overpowered a Sensor Frigate with 4/5 Pulse shields can do to Flux and Elfs.......
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Juxtapose
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From: Give me your bullets!
| Posted: 2003-10-12 22:13
Since both Flux and Pulse are being changed in the patch...it won't really matter....
I say this with optimism and a pinch of salt.
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Sandals
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Joined: January 21, 2002
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From: Redmond,WA,USA
| Posted: 2003-10-12 22:44
Is that really enough?
Salt that is.
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musashi
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Joined: September 22, 2003
Posts: 24
From: Lincoln, NE
| Posted: 2003-10-13 01:03
Flux is Cheap
Mines are Uber
4Cl2ks on a dessy is unfortounate
torps are are like paint balls
Kill you nmy with fighter lag is just cruel
In my opinion...
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| Posted: 2003-10-13 02:09
Nice summation, Not Falling.
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Darksworde
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Joined: September 06, 2002
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From: The Zoo
| Posted: 2003-10-13 02:46
U guys havent played this game much have u?
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| Posted: 2003-10-13 03:42
TROLL ALERT!!!!
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Kamikaze Chicken
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| Posted: 2003-10-13 03:49
Id have to agree with Darksworde, the ICC seem to miss that they already have pulse beams and pulse shield, thats a HUGE defensive edge.
In tinkles mode of thinking we may as well just give the AC 12 torps and 5 reactors as well, that way we can make everything hugely overpowered and just be done with it...
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From: Axianda
| Posted: 2003-10-13 04:19
OH OH OH and i DEMAND minibars in every ICC ship.
* you have just been flamed*
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Darksworde
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From: The Zoo
| Posted: 2003-10-13 05:32
Ok sandal,
Lemme just point out a few things, since you havent played this game recently!
1) ICC outclass both UGTO and Kluth in combat. All it takes is a core group of Assault Cruisers, loaded with AM Torps, a little organisation and u have a fleet that is unstoppable against equal numbers, and will hold off a fleet which is roughly 1.5 times its size.
2) Introducing a sensor frigate (Recent examples i can think of - Ragglock)into the equation makes bombing nigh on impossible.
3) With the current crop of rax-rotating players, inf capping can be made nigh on impossible, meaning that the invading force must rely on bombing, which I then refer to Point 2
4) With pilots who know what they are doing, nuke miners on the UGTO and Kluth factions can be effectively neutralised
5) Planet Capping a cluster is easy as ICC, I refer to Pulse Shields and Pulse Beams and the Sensor Frigate being the most versatile Defense Ship in this game!
6) Have you forgotten that HOAR conquered the Metaverse a few weeks back?
7) The only reason the ICC stand still is because they have no active players, not because their equipment is under-balanced!
 Do u get the point yet?
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Juxtapose
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From: Give me your bullets!
| Posted: 2003-10-13 07:31
Yup, that is about the truth of it... a small pack of AC's that stay tight will clean house in any attack, can cap planets (6 pulses, anyone?), carry enough ECCM to take down the bugs (6 ECCM, anyone...and maybe a scanner, so 5)...not to mention the fact that they can wear either shields or armor, have more torp slots AND have pulse beams (two if you want)
What I don't understand is this facsination with AM torps... people get sooo overly emotional in their pushing of these as the END ALL UBER TORP
"YOU don't use AM Torps?! YOU ARE such a Newb!"
"Yea, you can't be in my fleet!"
"Yea, AM torps roxor, they are leet! They can single-handedly destroy a station in one salvo and never miss!"
Now, I may have gotten off subject, but really...AM torps?
Sure they are great against K'luth Dessy's, but lets be honest...Like an intelligent person, I runaway from K'luth Dessy's unless there is only 1 or 2 and several of me.
Fusion Torps are the best because: They fire faster, further and there are more of em! They don't 'Splash' as much, but who cares, I'm in a cruiser, I'm fighting dreads not Dessy' (who, by the way, have an easier time dodging AM torpedo's than Fusion), splash don't mean squat.
If you folks want to be content with 'splash' damage, fine by me, I just hope you are on the other side, cause I am usually only content with actually hitting my targets...
Anyway...I was agreeing with Darksworde...(cept about the AM torps)
ICC ROX! (all 10 of us who are both active and who play the MV!)
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oh yea...and I don't care much for Proton Torps either, but who does?
[ This Message was edited by: Juxtapose on 2003-10-13 07:33 ]
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Kamikaze Chicken
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| Posted: 2003-10-13 09:17
What Dark is getting at is not that AM torps are some uber weapon, your right they arnt, F torps have faster fire rate, do the most damage per second, use the least energy, have the most ammo and the most range. they are infact the uber torp not the AM. However that being said an AC can easily kill a Kluth dest if it uses AM torps. What Dark was getting at is that ICC complain they cant kill Kluth dests, for that task AM torps are the best. Other then that F torps all the way...
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