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PanelBeater
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Joined: February 07, 2003
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From: Next Door
|  Posted: 2003-10-04 15:58
Personally i love the idea Enterprise. a ship capable of totally destrusction and able to destroy planet size targets in a couple hits.theyey would be the pride of each faction. availble only to the super elite its a great idea.personally id keep it enterprise's way. plus having a superdreads would cause more battles to happen in the Mv with larger fleets. in nearly a year of playin ive only seen or heard of one or two "large" battles. there would be battles of 150 ships goin at it becuz the super dread will bring that kind of attention in to the systems. honestly if u think a super dreads is a bad idea u should reconsider.
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PanelBeater
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From: Next Door
| Posted: 2003-10-04 16:10
Personally i love the idea Enterprise. a ship capable of totally destrusction and able to destroy planet size targets in a couple hits.theyey would be the pride of each faction. availble only to the super elite its a great idea.personally id keep it enterprise's way. plus having a superdreads would cause more battles to happen in the Mv with larger fleets. in nearly a year of playin ive only seen or heard of one or two "large" battles. there would be battles of 150 ships goin at it becuz the super dread will bring that kind of attention in to the systems. honestly if u think a super dreads is a bad idea u should reconsider.
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PanelBeater
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From: Next Door
| Posted: 2003-10-04 16:10
Personally i love the idea Enterprise. a ship capable of totally destrusction and able to destroy planet size targets in a couple hits.theyey would be the pride of each faction. availble only to the super elite its a great idea.personally id keep it enterprise's way. plus having a superdreads would cause more battles to happen in the Mv with larger fleets. in nearly a year of playin ive only seen or heard of one or two "large" battles. there would be battles of 150 ships goin at it becuz the super dread will bring that kind of attention in to the systems. honestly if u think a super dreads is a bad idea u should reconsider.
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PanelBeater
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Joined: February 07, 2003
Posts: 47
From: Next Door
| Posted: 2003-10-04 16:10
Personally i love the idea Enterprise. a ship capable of totally destrusction and able to destroy planet size targets in a couple hits.theyey would be the pride of each faction. availble only to the super elite its a great idea.personally id keep it enterprise's way. plus having a superdreads would cause more battles to happen in the Mv with larger fleets. in nearly a year of playin ive only seen or heard of one or two "large" battles. there would be battles of 150 ships goin at it becuz the super dread will bring that kind of attention in to the systems. honestly if u think a super dreads is a bad idea u should reconsider.
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PanelBeater
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From: Next Door
| Posted: 2003-10-04 16:10
Personally i love the idea Enterprise. a ship capable of totally destrusction and able to destroy planet size targets in a couple hits.theyey would be the pride of each faction. availble only to the super elite its a great idea.personally id keep it enterprise's way. plus having a superdreads would cause more battles to happen in the Mv with larger fleets. in nearly a year of playin ive only seen or heard of one or two "large" battles. there would be battles of 150 ships goin at it becuz the super dread will bring that kind of attention in to the systems. honestly if u think a super dreads is a bad idea u should reconsider.
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Jim Starluck
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Templar Knights
Joined: October 22, 2001
Posts: 2232
From: Cincinnati, OH
| Posted: 2003-10-04 16:45
Gah...quintuple post...o.O
And this sounds more like what the Dev Team wants a Dreadnought to be. Come 1.482, they want Cruisers to be the backbone of a fleet, with a few Dreads to give it some extra punch.
Or something along those lines.
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Enterprise
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Joined: May 19, 2002
Posts: 2576
From: Hawthorne, Nevada
| Posted: 2003-10-04 17:57
Of course I know its a supersized version of a Dreadnought, thats the point.
But I wouldent expect something of this magnitude until several more patches down the line, after everything is fixed and set to go.
This type of craft very vulnerable to long-range fire, and can only take down things that are at least within 750 gu of it.
A couple of Missle Destroyers with ACs could take one down.
But yeah, I agree with the toning down of heavy beams, maybe 3 or so [Full].
Also remove interdictors and give each ship only 2 reloads.
-Ent
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PanelBeater
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From: Next Door
| Posted: 2003-10-04 18:25
but decrease the charge time for the solstar weapon 1 week is way to long even for a weapon of that magnitude
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Antdizzle
Joined: February 07, 2003
Posts: 860
| Posted: 2003-10-04 18:53
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On 2003-10-04 14:46, Max Kepler wrote:
If you wanted to create a "Super Dreadnought", you will need it to have extra disadvantages against smaller craft, and bigger advantages against normal Dreadnoughts and Stations. This means---
-The ship would NOT be equipped with many Heavy Beams. In fact, at most, 1. It would have several Light beams for Point Defense.
-The ship would most like carry a large load of Weapon slots.
-The ship would not be very maneuverable or fast, obviously.
-The ship would carry 2-3 bombs.
-The ship would NOT carry and kind of supply or fighter bays.
Basically, the ship is EXTREMELY vulnerable by itself, but with backup, becomes a powerful assault platform capable of doing many combat duties. Supplying is what the station is for, and Dreads all have their specific duties.
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Masari
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Joined: February 17, 2003
Posts: 32
| Posted: 2003-10-04 22:33
I thinking of a Dread with this=
600 Ftorps with the range max of 150 gu
300 bombs at the range max of 200 gu
150 pule beams with the range max of 250 gu
15 IE
4 Light Armor
Super Hard Shield
250 Power Plants
500 infs
150 fighters
and what I like most a dock where smaller when dread can dock in the cargo room for a min or 2.
also only got 150 hull therefore if the shield and armor failed you dead (
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Enterprise
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Joined: May 19, 2002
Posts: 2576
From: Hawthorne, Nevada
| Posted: 2003-10-04 23:22
Er.....the purpose for the SOLSTAR weapon for 1 week is so that it is only used in a very VERY seldom situation.
Its not to meant to be a weapon to be used when you want to but, when you absolutely, no other choice, need to.
Which is why it should be one week, and if not, EVEN more than that.
Its a powerful weapon, and therefor, should be constricted.
-Ent
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Sandals
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Joined: January 21, 2002
Posts: 2001
From: Redmond,WA,USA
| Posted: 2003-10-04 23:39
i don care how fast it goes, there's no way to balance something like that.
*EDIT*
btw your stated intention was to go between dreads and stations, however a ship of this type would have at least two, maybe three times the combat power of any station, considering the specials, defence, and offense.
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Eledore Massis [R33]
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Joined: May 26, 2002
Posts: 2694
From: tsohlacoLocalhost
| Posted: 2003-10-05 06:32
just make a GUN platform ship type
it jumps in it fires its sideways weapons and it moves away from combat destroying like 2 ships
ill currently base the exemple for UGTO only
if you all like it ill try to ballance some ships out for the 3 factions
--- UGTO gun platform ship ---
5 armor :
(one heavy front, one heavy Left, one heavy Right, One heavy Rear, One light Rear)
4 IE
1 TacJ
1 scanner
1 eccm
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12 P torps :
(6 left, 6 right)
5 IT
(5 rear)
6 AR :
(3 left, 3 right)
4 light beams
(4 CL300 full)
this is a gun ship
its not for head on assaults
its more like the old wooden naval ships
sideways fire only
think this ship wil fit under the destroyer class only becous it must be easy to destroy
its just like the kluth a fragile ship but had hudge fire power and medium speed
2 euro cents from FIRETONE
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