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Lark of Serenity
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Joined: June 02, 2002
Posts: 2516
|  Posted: 2003-08-27 22:11
PS: u can still own a planet with inf, just takes awhile, the hover carrier would shorten it a bit but bombs would still be better... wait nm, bombs wont work at all if theyre still using that silly *as many bombs as r on your ship* thing
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Sandals
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Agents
Joined: January 21, 2002
Posts: 2001
From: Redmond,WA,USA
| Posted: 2003-08-27 22:42
*cough*
let me get this straight
we want a modern/infformation era carrier, flying through space?
umm
rite 
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Ramius
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From: Ramius
| Posted: 2003-08-28 01:16
Hahaha! Awesome, Quant!
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thebold
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Joined: September 28, 2002
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From: England
| Posted: 2003-08-28 06:30
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On 2003-08-27 16:48, Captain Tinkle wrote:
I say yah but the dev team doesnt seem willing to add new ships even though it would be totally PIMP
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sorry im not 'wit it liek!' isnt that bad?
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Ceridan
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From: Canada
| Posted: 2003-08-28 10:02
ummm all that seams good, exept its a bit like a game know as ShateredStar or Star Shatter(or something... NOT SHATERED GALAXIES  )
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Gideon
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Joined: September 14, 2001
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From: Oregon, USA
| Posted: 2003-08-28 13:01
A long and well filled out post, so I will respond to it piece by piece.
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On 2003-08-27 15:56, Cobra 1-1 wrote:
ok this popped through my head just now ok
each side will have a carrier ship it has a good amount of beam weapons to deal with fighter attacks
it would look sorta like current carriers a flat top kind of ship it would have 160 fighters total however it can't launch them all at once and the fighters also need to be armed manned and brought to the flight deck
the carrier can launch 8 aircraft
thats assuming that they are assualt fighters u can launch 8 interceptor fighters at once and only 4 bombers at the same time
carriers would have the ability to launch VTOL fighters fast like fighter hut can hover and unload on a target
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Well, we are first going to test our new fighter configs and types before we make a final determination on the capacity of carriers. Changes to the number of fighters carried on ships is not out of the question, but will have to be concidered after a better working knowledge of our new fighters is accumulated.
I have no idea as to weather the number of simultanious fighter lauches can be changed within the code as you describe it. I do know that different fighter "slots" (bomber, assault, interceptor) can have different recharge rates, power requirements, and ammo capacity. Perhaps ammount of fighters per minute by type could be a different way of looking at lauch rates?
As to the appearance and the topic of this post:
Do not think of dread, cruiser, destroyer, etc class ships as being the actual class of the ship. Think of it more as a mass category. Military ships over a certain mass are dreadnoughts in DS, reguardless of the combat profile. I would like to gently remind everyone that the ICC has multiple models per ship class for dreadnoughts and destroyers. So, this shows that models are attached by specific ship type, not general class. What this boils down to is that carriers can have a distinct model from other dreadnought class ships from the same faction.
Additional: As of v1.480 we are using a different database configuration to store ship data. This will allow us to differenciate basic hull data between factions, and possibly within a faction between ships in the same class.
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they would require other ships to protect them
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Yep. A must do, reguardless of how other things come out.
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also the carrier carries ammo and fuel for all the aircraft
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Planned for a later modification of the fighters, along with them gaining xp level allowing players to form elite squadrons and players losing resources for wasting such valuable pilots.
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u can access a menuj that allows u to arm the fighters with the correct loadout select which aircraft u want readied on the flight deck and set their alert status
which is alert 5 alert 10 alert 15 and alert 30
alert 5 means that fighter is manned armed and ready to launch within 5 seconds alert 10 means that the fighter aircraft is manned fueled but not armed ready to launch in a bout 10 seconds alert 15 means that the fighter is at the hanger fueled not armed not manned alert 30 means its ready to launch in 30 seconds
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Unknown as to whether this would be feasable within the game. It would have to be a simple and easy to use interface, with appealing and logical tradeoffs for each alert level.
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also u can have simultaneous strikes say u need to bomb some planet with fighters u can have 2 bombers take off with 4 interceptors to air support
and some assualt fighters to escort the the bombers planetside (and go down their with them to provide SEAD support thats supression of enemy air defenses)
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This is already planned to be part of our initial update to fighters, as well as allowing players to have fighters hold in an area while they launch more, and then move them all off together as a group, form them into task groups, assign them general missions (attack interdictors, escort X ship, etc.), assign them mission priorities (attack interdictors, then Demorian, then enemy bombers, etc.), and AI routines that let them switch their targets according to their mission priorities automatically.
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also 1 new kind of aircraft its a refueling tanker what it does is it goes to a location away from combat and when ur fighters run low on fuel they head to the refueling tanker (unless ordered to RTB which then they head back to the carrier if they need to refuel to make it to the carrier they will automatically do so) i just thought this up tell me what u think and if i should add or remove anything else (by the way if ur carrier runs outta supplies for ur aircraft thats fuel spare parts ammo and also if u don't have enough pilots to man the aircraft ur ability to engage the enemy will be soo much in trouble to say the least)
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Good idea for an additional fighter type.
We have assembled several others for possible implementation later, including but not limited to: cloaked strike fighters, jump fighters, heavy assault fighters (with shields or armour), recon fighters, etc...
Glad to see someone else who wants carriers to fill their role of being carriers. Keep the ideas coming.
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Chosen of Chaos{Dictor Lord}
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From: chosen of chaos
| Posted: 2003-08-28 13:20
i love the idea i wanna fly a carrier >_<
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From: New Orleans,Louisiana
| Posted: 2003-08-28 14:52
oh yeah gideon one more fighter type its a primarily antiship type of fighter 2 versions one that drops special torpedos (u can't use these on ur ship only fighters can use these special light torps) they are weaker than those ur ship launches to be able to be mounted on a fighter
and the second version launches AS missles just a improved version of the IT missle again just popped up in my head torpedo fighter idea may work but would be slow as the bomber fighter also a heavy torp fighter would be availible more heavily armored and can carry more torps
make that 2 more fighter types this is a Electronics warfare plane what it does is it jams the radar of enemy ships this can be defeated by using better targeting systems and radar systems that are resistant to jamming the effectiveness the EW plane has on targeting and radar systems depend if they are standard or improved they have a harder time on different ship types the jamming also requires the jammed ships to come within 250-400gu to be able to engage automatically also i agree about the idea of elite pilots i was thinking of that but thought someone might not like it also i think u should be able to send ur elite pilots to a school (like the one from Top Gun) train them to be better or u can hire mercenary pilots also if the EW lane happened to enter visual range of a jammed ships the PD would automatically engage
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From: New Orleans,Louisiana
| Posted: 2003-08-28 14:55
oh yeah about the hover carrier idea lets just call it the dropship would be able to carry ur armored units also the dropship would be armed with air to ground weaponry and a nose cannon so when a dropship dropped a unit right on top of a enemy unit the drop ship(s) would automaticall engage the enemy ground units on its way to the LZ
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| Posted: 2003-08-29 14:45
also fighters should be able to carry drop tanks these drop tanks carry extra fuel to allow a fighter to go farther without refueling i think this should be added to beta ill make a seperate post about drop tanks
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