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Ragglock
Marshal
BIOnics Industry Syndicate
Joined: May 29, 2001
Posts: 1955
From: Denmark
|  Posted: 2003-08-11 17:43
no one talks about defence of cd here usaly there are enugh to counter that when needed
i talking about expanding the icc shpere and you still dont get that you dont have to make an planet defenceless to make it not so usefull for the enemy if they capture it 
and im trying to get those that is contend to sit in CD and polish their combat bage to be more active also when cd or cyg dosent get invaded .
we only have the action in mv we create ourself and i rather try to expand than just sit around waiting for someone to invade all other options are not something i like.
and if you chouse to think less of my motives i advice to think them over when i play on any faction im 110% commited to it no buts or if
bis and i have been icc long before many of you icc now even heard of DS so dont give me crap about you have been icc longer than me or BIS no argument for not helping when i try to move the icc frontlines outwards.
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Sardaukar
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Raven Warriors
Joined: October 08, 2002
Posts: 1656
| Posted: 2003-08-11 17:49
Oh, sorry to mention- those posts werent aimed at you offensively, but more to those in BIS and elsewhere who believed BIS was unwanted and underappreciated by the majority of ICC, to help clear things up.
On the calling you newer to the ICC than us- although you were ICC then, this is now, and things in the ICC have probably changed.
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Rousing-tactics or not, I don't think you can blame us for not getting really PO'd.
Oh, and if PB did come ICC.. yeah. We'd probably beat them with Exathran RockBadgers and empty Fusion Torpedo hulls 
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Masari
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Joined: February 17, 2003
Posts: 32
| Posted: 2003-08-11 18:15
If BIS does take over ICC I wonder if any of the fleet will help them for it. I bet if they do it alot of fleets will change to another faction. Because an fleet I was in did it when BIS came to ICC
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Drouid
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Joined: October 27, 2002
Posts: 131
From: U.S.A.
| Posted: 2003-08-11 18:38
well i come when i can. sorry but real life and work take priority over darkspace. though i am in MV most of the time. and do come when the call for help is heard.
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Pakhos[+R]
Chief Marshal
Pitch Black
Joined: May 31, 2002
Posts: 1352
From: Clean room lab
| Posted: 2003-08-11 19:29
I think BIS should come back to KLuth.Look at this,people blame you because u are the best of icc right now..
Also I dont think people will think BIS is a faction hopper!I am sure if u will go to Kluth now most of ICC will be happy and be screwed:P
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Sardaukar
Admiral
Raven Warriors
Joined: October 08, 2002
Posts: 1656
| Posted: 2003-08-11 22:43
Pakhos... For one, what are we blaming them of? And second, I already said it- This is an ICC matter, UGTO and K'luth are politely asked to stay out of it.
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Ragglock
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Joined: May 29, 2001
Posts: 1955
From: Denmark
| Posted: 2003-08-13 06:38
Ok this thread have served its purpose.
It was started and designed by me to provoke just the discussion it have been running to show the true colors of some and get some others to think.
I’m happy with the result of it but now its time to stop the flame war and start playing.
I ask a moderator of this forum to either move it or lock it down.
You can always count on me to start discussions like this when ever I fell like it, so don’t sit back and relax to much , ill be right there again if I se an reason to do so
Cya all on the battelfield
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Juxtapose
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Sundered Weimeriners
Joined: May 11, 2002
Posts: 1308
From: Give me your bullets!
| Posted: 2003-08-13 09:33
I've occassionally taken a peek into this post, whenever I needed a good chuckle. Something about an argument over who-runs-what-in-which-server.
What should be noted, however, is the following:
1. For months many of us have been expecting the patch and with it, the erasement of the present M.V. (and its expansion... oh! my loins ache with anticipitory fluids!)
In the past few weeks, the expectation has grown to giddy anticipation. There really seems to be an Any-Day-Now feel about it. Knowing that the slate is about to be cleaned kind of takes away the desire to write anything of note on it.
2. I feel I speak for most of my clan and many other players when I say: I have never accepted nor will I ever accept that there is one player or one fleet that has any more say over another player or fleet or can claim any measure of control over the actions taken in the MV.
When this happens, and this happens every few months, participation in the M.V declines dramatically, fleets vacate the ICC for less over-bearing systems and posts like this get created.
I belong to the S.W Clan. We don't have fleet leaders (except during the 20 to 30 minutes when Josef joins, or when there is a Rogue Spear clone involved), we go about our business, do our own things but generally come when called. Lately we haven't been as active in the M.V. as we have in the past, but refer please to #1. Still, with 24 planets bearing our Tag, I'm not willing to dismiss our participation as ineffectual.
Teamwork and leadership is a two way street. In my time playing the M.V. as the ICC, I have never seen a self-appointed leader drive it correctly. Some have started out on the right side, but always the reality of the game takes over: Loyalty is Fleet First, Faction Second. This isn't a knock against BIS or Ragglock (whom I respect and enjoy playing with), it is just the reality of the game...people like group leadership by consensus, not leadership by appointment, no matter how good that leadership is.
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Ragglock
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Joined: May 29, 2001
Posts: 1955
From: Denmark
| Posted: 2003-08-13 09:57
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qcould not agree more im just trying to stire up things dont take it persona.l
I never expect anyone to follow my plans witout full consensus.
self appointments for an role can only happen if players are active, thats my point.
no one should just lay back and say we deside or we dont apcept this and that desison on mybehalf without active playing to back it.
in the end we can only ourself select what we want to do in DS no one can force you.
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Lark of Serenity
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Raven Warriors
Joined: June 02, 2002
Posts: 2516
| Posted: 2003-08-13 19:24
expand ICCs sphere? weve removed kluth from the map and came close with the UGTO several times. its called a rest period
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Sardaukar
Admiral
Raven Warriors
Joined: October 08, 2002
Posts: 1656
| Posted: 2003-08-13 19:38
And in one fell swoop, Lark just won the debate. I wuv debates, nice one this was
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Joined: September 30, 2001
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From: Wisconsin, US
| Posted: 2003-08-13 20:47
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