On 2012-03-21 19:28, Died~2000~Deaths[+R]*CO* wrote:
you can't be serious. So you make our missles and fighters selfdestruct and return to our ships when we cloak.

so now your gonna make it so when we get targeted and when we cloak the ewar keeps a lock on us and keeps firing youve got to be kidding me. in case this hasen't been thought thru all the players will have to do is point fire where the ewar is firing and hit a cloaked ship.

i thought the game was close to being ballanced but this will make the game even more unbalanced and cause players to quit playing kluth or just quit the game period. PB has allready quit because of game ballances and nerfing done in the past. if this is done it will cause players to play icc or uggies and then you will only have 2 factions playing. as a long time player and a ds lover i ask that you reconsider this befor you make the changes and make sure this is good for all not just the human factions.

On 2012-03-21 20:04, Pantheon wrote:
You do realise all of what you're saying is, and excuse me for being blunt, rubbish?

You are far from nerfed, or anywhere close to that. The current EWAR energy drain on K'Luth has been criticised from all sides (K'Luth, UGTO, and ICC), and it saddens me that you are so obscure to what is real balance that you cannot understand what we are trying to do, and feel the need to complain before anything has been touched (you don't even know how strong the EWAR effect will be).

Really annoys me when people go off on rants like this with absolutely ZERO basis, ZERO fact, and quite frankly, ZERO intelligence.

How about you test the changes and give constructive feedback next time, instead of ranting on what hasn't even been decided yet?

On 2012-03-21 20:19, Pantheon wrote:
Prior to the changes, EWAR affected cloak speeds. Faustus has since optimised cloak far more, and drains energy on how much its masking. Basically, cloak times are now absolutely, and nothing can effect them.

Because weapons deactivate when the ship is not targettable, targettable EWAR never has the chance to work. To fix this and to give human players a bit more balance in 'finding' and effecting K'Luth after they have handed their first strike, we decided that it was acceptable to let targettable EWAR run even when the enemy has cloaked.

Let me run through the proposal thus far:

Targettable EWAR will continue to function, even on non-targettable ships (cloaked, negative signature, etc).
Targettable EWAR will only display the activation graphic on the host ship (not on the ship it's targetting).

That's it. There is still no easy way for the enemy players to find you, all they are doing is increasing your signature on that one ship, and only that one ship. You can easily creep out of its range and have it deactivate, at which point the player knows you are somewhere outside of its activation range.

On 2012-03-21 20:19, Pantheon wrote:


That's it. There is still no easy way for the enemy players to find you, all they are doing is increasing your signature on that one ship, and only that one ship. You can easily creep out of its range and have it deactivate, at which point the player knows you are somewhere outside of its activation range.

On 2012-03-21 21:55, Kenny_Naboo[+R] wrote:

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On 2012-03-21 20:19, Pantheon wrote: That's it. There is still no easy way for the enemy players to find you, all they are doing is increasing your signature on that one ship, and only that one ship. You can easily creep out of its range and have it deactivate, at which point the player knows you are somewhere outside of its activation range.

Actually Jack, can we have that targetable ECCM remain on/running even after the cloaked vessel has moved out of range? Of course once I'm in range again it shouldn't automatically re-lock on to me.

I'm fine with it retaining lock on me. But I would like the human player to keep guessing whether I'm still in the area or not.

This will acheive 2 things:
- If he keeps it running, he burns energy
- The targetable ECCM cannot be used as a Kluth 'detector' but remain as it is, an EWAR device

On 2012-03-21 21:55, Kenny_Naboo[+R] wrote:
This will acheive 2 things:
- If he keeps it running, he burns energy
- The targetable ECCM cannot be used as a Kluth 'detector' but remain as it is, an EWAR device