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Fatal Command (CO)
Chief Marshal
Fatal Squadron
Joined: November 27, 2002
Posts: 1159
From: Back in Texas and noticing some ppl are like canoes.....they need to be paddled.
|  Posted: 2004-03-19 19:20
just a thought.....but as it is........when on missions capping..trannies and stations get very little if any prestige gain.How about allowing Stations to have a "Group " ability.It would allow the other ships to all share in the gain or loss of prestige while in offensive or defensive mode.It allows allows a lil in way of concerted effort to obtain objectives and allows the force to be more cohesive and function as a unit.
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Novacat
Grand Admiral
Joined: October 30, 2001
Posts: 2337
From: Starleague Cache
| Posted: 2004-03-19 19:33
Honestly, after the grouping was removed, you RARELY see people in dictors anymore. This is a good idea.
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MrSparkle
Marshal
Joined: August 13, 2001
Posts: 1912
From: mrsparkle
| Posted: 2004-03-19 19:51
So long as it's just generic prestige, and not points toward badges. How many people earned their gold badges like engineering by grouping and not actually doing the work I wonder? I've seen many profiles that lead me to think they just grouped for it (or were powerleveled to use an EQish term)
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Tiggy
Midshipman
Terra Squadron
Joined: May 30, 2003
Posts: 282
From: Western Australia
| Posted: 2004-03-19 21:52
Hmm, I've got something to add here. All profiles have the "bonus prestige" stat which now (as far as I know) is not used anymore. (As in, you cannot gain it anymore). I propose that we use this to calculate prestige gained from groups. People still gain prestige out of fleeting; yet they actually gain no points.
Opinions?
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Doran
Chief Marshal
Galactic Navy
Joined: March 29, 2003
Posts: 4032
From: The Gideon Unit
| Posted: 2004-03-19 22:09
well the bonus is added in to the total pres pretty much 1:1
seems to be more of a scenario thing (gets show at the end) but its usualy single digit numbers
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Coeus {NCX-Charger}
Admiral, I can't read,
Sundered Weimeriners
Joined: February 16, 2004
Posts: 3635
From: South Philly
| Posted: 2004-03-19 23:24
There definately needs to be more incentive for people to participate more in fleets of varied ships. Maybe there should be a proximity thing - if you're within 1000 GUs of any combat or capping, and you are in an interdicter you get a %age of something... just a thought.
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Fatal Command (CO)
Chief Marshal
Fatal Squadron
Joined: November 27, 2002
Posts: 1159
From: Back in Texas and noticing some ppl are like canoes.....they need to be paddled.
| Posted: 2004-03-20 00:10
well.my concern was when "Fleeted" you could do as in the old HUD click a box and locate the ships.wouldnt have to hit F2 to find ppl.or have so many distresses that screen went yellow on the left side.lower the amount of pres if you want MR.F,but,PLEASE,give us back grouping so the ships that cant gain pres doing what they do.can get a little bit from helping others.ie.the FLeet its attached to.
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Faustus
Marshal
Palestar
Joined: May 29, 2001
Posts: 2748
From: Austin, Texas
| Posted: 2004-03-20 00:15
Actually, I would "Like" grouping to be automatic with your fleet...Basically, all gains/losses would be shared between you and all other members of your fleet currently online.
Note that I haven't made a firm decision to do this, note the word "LIKE"...
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Coeus {NCX-Charger}
Admiral, I can't read,
Sundered Weimeriners
Joined: February 16, 2004
Posts: 3635
From: South Philly
| Posted: 2004-03-20 00:36
What about a ratio kind of thing? The more you put in the more you get out... dunno
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Resorath
Cadet
Joined: April 21, 2002
Posts: 15
| Posted: 2004-03-20 12:14
Wouldn't it just be easier to give prestige to interdictors, miners, etc? Eg, a constant prestige gain based on the number of enemy ships into a dictors field, or the number of resources you _give_ to a planet.
Btw the bonus prestige applies for winning a scenario, usually +4 per win.
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Trinny
Cadet
Joined: March 08, 2004
Posts: 32
| Posted: 2004-03-20 20:20
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On 2004-03-19 19:51, Holycannoli wrote:
So long as it's just generic prestige, and not points toward badges. How many people earned their gold badges like engineering by grouping and not actually doing the work I wonder? I've seen many profiles that lead me to think they just grouped for it (or were powerleveled to use an EQish term)
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Agreed. Though I wasn't here when there was grouping.. I base my agreement off what I've heard in chats. :/
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Fatal Command (CO)
Chief Marshal
Fatal Squadron
Joined: November 27, 2002
Posts: 1159
From: Back in Texas and noticing some ppl are like canoes.....they need to be paddled.
| Posted: 2004-03-20 21:54
earned every badge I have..a couple the hard way...but you cant earn squat in a dictor,which quite often,is a needed ship that no one wants to fly cause you get nothing for it.rarely a thanks included.
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Gabriel
Cadet
Joined: November 27, 2003
Posts: 46
From: United Kingdom.
| Posted: 2004-03-20 22:17
I've flown a dictor on the very odd occasion after we can't group and get annoyed.....
1) You aren't really a combat ship, so get killed quite easily if you try
2) If you keep up the dict field, you can only fire a few rounds off before you run out of power and it's worse if your moving
So i hate sitting there watching people get xp while I keep the ships trapped for them to do it and get absolutely nothing for doing it.......
Bring back grouping or come up with some form of xp for dictor's....
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Fatal Command (CO)
Chief Marshal
Fatal Squadron
Joined: November 27, 2002
Posts: 1159
From: Back in Texas and noticing some ppl are like canoes.....they need to be paddled.
| Posted: 2004-03-20 23:09
for the record.thanks gabriel.for earlier...for now...and for later.
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Southpark
Admiral
Joined: February 25, 2004
Posts: 132
From: Texas
| Posted: 2004-03-20 23:10
how about making it so "auto-fleets" are formed around people of and arbitrary rank (say Admiral) and higher.
here's how it works
you have 1 Admiral
everyone w/in 1000 gu of him is "autofleeted" (use the same collsion code as dictor field) if they leave the boundary, no longer fleeted, have a little icon informing people when they are w/in "fleet" range and who their "fleet commander" is.
or if you have 2 Admirals
each of them gets a 1000gu bubble, but if their bubbles overlap, it joins the two fleets together (1 big 2 admiral fleet) or you could leave it so each admiral gets his own complement of "fleet people" etc.
This would encourage people to follow their "leaders" around.
you may need to allow people to flag themselves as "non-leaders" though if someone is of "admiral" rank but does not want to lead fleets around. shrug. etc. needs tweaking.
perhaps you can just do a system-wide fleet per system.
a entire metaverse wide "fleet" would be too big imo, and people idling would get "Free" prestige.
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