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Pope
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Joined: June 11, 2002
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From: World of tomorrow
|  Posted: 2003-08-20 13:04
Hi,
there are tons and tons of community member posts in here, kilograms of wetware that is thinking about the future of the game - granted, of all qualities - and most, me included, dont mind if they dont get a team reply to their ideas.
however, it would help a lot if we even had the slightest idea of what the teams vision of the future of DS is.
will teamwork become essential or not? will there be a focus on diversity in ships, requiring more mixed fleets? will there be a new role for ship class X?
anything, however general it is, will already help alot with steering the thoughts of the community. i'd take bets that at least 50% of the ideas in here are bound to be useless from the very start because they are heading in the wrong direction.
there has to be a consensus or at least different opinions amongst the designing and developing staff about general gameplay ideas.
id like to know what it is.
it is hard to brainstorm on anything you dont know the boundaries and settings for, and its not very effective to detail ideas out under those conditions.
this game is far to good for me to not think and care about.
please, cast some light into this forum.
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Axianda The Royal
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Terra Squadron
Joined: November 20, 2001
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From: Axianda
| Posted: 2003-08-20 13:18
Yeah me 2 i've read a lot of great idea's but i almost never see the dev post hmm thats a nice idea or sorry we'll never put that in at least you know where you stand
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Juxtapose
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Joined: May 11, 2002
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From: Give me your bullets!
| Posted: 2003-08-20 13:37
I heartily concur!
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Doran
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Galactic Navy
Joined: March 29, 2003
Posts: 4032
From: The Gideon Unit
| Posted: 2003-08-20 16:03
would definatly be nice if we had some (even a bit) idea as to where they want to go with it, could point the wetware in that direction. lotta good ideas get posted, but most proably wont get in *sigh*
havent heard that term for a while
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Orion_Prime
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From: Missouri, USA
| Posted: 2003-08-21 11:08
Ask and ye shall recieve
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Pope
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From: World of tomorrow
| Posted: 2003-08-21 17:30
the public dev meetings tend to be more like a "ask F what has been asked 10 times before" session.
what i would love to see is a few paragraphs about how the future of DS is envisioned by the dev team.
talking about general issues, not "when will the patch be released" or "why not make a light disruptor"
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From: *CLASSIFIED*
| Posted: 2003-08-21 18:15
hmmm ... no response from the Devs ......
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Shigernafy
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From: The Land of Taxation without Representation
| Posted: 2003-08-21 21:47
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We make it a point not to respond.
In fact, its one of our primary tenets of operation. Here's a snippet from our Development Team Mission Statement to demonstrate:
...shall strive to communicate with the player base as seldom as possible. When it becomes absolutely imperative that the player base be told something, it should be done with a minimum of words, and as few facts as possible. (TIP: Use statistics and percentages whenever possible, as they can often appear to be factual, but are easily misunderstood and are very often misused by those seeking to make an argument, which then leads to any issue or suggestion becoming so distorted that it is usually abondoned by all involved. Do your best, however, to be as friendly in the presentation of these numbers as possible, so that the players don't catch on. A false sense of frienship does wonders.) Whenever possible, Developers should strive to obfuscate any comments they make, and never answer a question directly. Confusion is paramount, especially when...
You get the idea.
And remember, Developers have historically responded to over 65% of all suggestive posts, and post an average of 1.72 messages a day. They also tend to be one of the most inter-communicative groups, when measured using a weighted scale.
- Shigernafy, your loyal and informative Developer friend
[ This Message was edited by: Shigernafy on 2003-08-21 21:52 ]
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From: *CLASSIFIED*
| Posted: 2003-08-21 22:42
LOL ..... exactly as expected .... almost on que even ....
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| Posted: 2003-08-22 00:15
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Do your best, however, to be as friendly in the presentation of these numbers as possible, so that the players don't catch on. A false sense of frienship does wonders.
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does this mean your really not my friend? 
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Axianda The Royal
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From: Axianda
| Posted: 2003-08-22 05:15
Its true that you have responeded often already thats one of the reasons i went back to DS the devs talked to use * VERY IMPORTAND *and we dont expect you to respond to all but some of these idea's get ALOT of positive feedback from players and i mean A LOT.
at that point we cant help to think ok we think its good what do the devs think?
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g0ds s0ldier
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| Posted: 2003-08-22 05:28
I think the Information they give us is a ok ammount, even tho we hear the same things over and over and over  ..Doesnt bother me at all, i think the right choices will be made...
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Shigernafy
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From: The Land of Taxation without Representation
| Posted: 2003-08-22 07:17
On a more serious note, part of the reason we're not being very communicative at the moment is that we are stuck waiting for the patch just like all the players are. With Faustus slaving away over the 1.481 stuff, he doesn't really have the time to consider, much less code, any of these suggestions.
Hopefully, once the backlog of things to code clears up a bit, we can really begin working on some of the ideas presented around here. At that point, we would probably be posting more on what we think about what we see.
For now, though, we're not talking about what we're doing because we're not really doing much. There is a little work here and there, mainly on the more minor facets of the game (webpage, mod tools, gcql, etc), but without Faustus available, we can't really do too much to the game itself.
I hope that clears things up a bit.. I also hope that you don't get discouraged. Everyone, from players to Devs, appreciate all the hard work every one of your suggestive folks put in thinking of ways to improve the game - its such a high level of participation in all aspects of this game that makes it great.
So, keep the ideas rolling.. we'll keep a casual eye on things until we reach the point where we can use them... and then hopefully you'll start to see some of your suggestions making it into the game.
Also, as another excuse/explanation, I have personally been extremely busy in real life lately, and I think others are seeing a similar trend in their time being taken up by outside pursuits. Hopefully this will calm down in the future, but for now we do what we can with the limited time we have around here....
- Shig
PS - I still love you, g0ds.
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Pope
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From: World of tomorrow
| Posted: 2003-08-22 15:09
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On a more serious note,
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there you HAD me wondering with your previous post!
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i thought that wouldnt hinder any design work...
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Faustus slaving away over the 1.481 stuff, he doesn't really have the time to consider, much less code, any of these suggestions.
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...but i guess he is the deciding factor 
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pssst noone heard that *g*
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more minor facets of the game (webpage, mod tools, gcql, etc), but without Faustus available, we can't really do too much to the game itself.
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those so-called minor facets become pretty important when you plan to reach a certain size..
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I hope that clears things up a bit.. I also hope that you don't get discouraged. Everyone, from players to Devs, appreciate all the hard work
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PS - I still love you, g0ds.
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noone heard that either
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| Posted: 2003-08-22 16:50
I heard it...
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