Selvarian {IMC}
Cadet
Joined: August 18, 2001
Posts: 1242
From: GA, USA
|  Posted: 2002-03-01 19:38
Apologies for not posting this earlier, was trying to make sure I didn't have access to the missing 20 minutes before we switched to closed session.
02:59:00 [ C `] Dwarden: "cost 3 cards"
02:59:19 [MP]Snafu: "and i have a problem with any clan or person that attacks a system and destroys everything"
02:54:28 [PS]Selvarian: "Well, then you're gonna have to find/write a QoS that allows you to do what you are trying to do."
02:59:37 [-GTN-]Demorian: "as do i"
* [-GTN-]Demorian slaps [MP]Snafu.
03:00:08 [MP]Snafu: "look at eri, no structures left planets with 3 or less pop"
* [-GTN-]Demorian innocently looks around.
* EVENT: 'NA Region Staff Meeting' event is starting now...
* [-GTN-]Demorian cleans his fingernails, whistling.
03:00:57 Smokey: "one of the big causes of cruise missles... low pop planets...."
* hunter_killer2608 waves to [-GTN-]Demorian...
* [-GTN-]Demorian nods at hunter_killer2608.
02:56:07 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. Let's get this show on the road."
02:56:38 [PS]Selvarian: "Real quick, anyone who has a topic they want to bring up, whisper it to me now."
* Smokey whispered "cruise missles..."
* Vinco whispered "second gen forum mod"
03:02:00 [MP]Snafu: "i have some planets to fix if the GTNM are done killing all the population"
* [LD]S21Peace whispered "i put in a request to b a mod, wondering if anyones seen it"
03:02:17 [-GTN-]Demorian: "hey, now...."
02:58:11 [PS]Selvarian: "OK, anything else?"
03:04:34 [-GTN-]Demorian: "not from i"
02:59:51 [PS]Selvarian: "OK, here are the topics:
1) Bugs/Suggs Database
2) Detailed Responsibility List for Staff
3) Stale mod removal
4) Opening up new mod selection
5) Cruise missiles
6) Second General Forum Mod
7) Status of the RoC - incompleteness
 Posted moderator list"
03:05:13 [-GTN-]Demorian: "sounds good"
* [PS]-mac- whispered "/find snafu"
03:05:23 Vinco: "works for me"
* [PS]-mac- whispered "sorry oops =)"
03:05:39 Vinco: "restart time... memory leak hitting me again."
03:00:41 [PS]Selvarian: "First up, the new databases.,"
03:00:55 [PS]Selvarian: "stupid Vinco virus."
03:06:17 [PS]nimby: "I have been getting the same thing...anyone figgure it out yet?"
03:01:43 [PS]Selvarian: "I am still putting the site together fo rthe Bugs/Suggestions databases. I will have it up By Friday morning for testing."
03:06:47 [-GTN-]Demorian: "lol"
03:07:01 Smokey: "what is the vinco virus?"
03:07:13 Smokey: "just a memory leak?"
* Vinco slaps [-GTN-]Demorian in the head...
03:07:22 Vinco: "Yeah"
03:07:26 Admiral Jimmy: "Virus?!? This is the first I've heard..."
03:02:35 [PS]Selvarian: "I am trying to balance a bit of featuritis in the Bugs database. Bugzilla is a masssive chunk of code with more options than we will ever need."
03:07:39 [-GTN-]Demorian: "its a joke jimmy, the name is anyway"
03:07:39 Vinco: "it's not a virus."
03:07:44 Vinco: "IT's a bug in GameCQ"
03:07:45 [PS]nimby: "Only happens when IE is open?"
03:07:45 Smokey: "it's not a virus... just a name we call it"
03:07:55 Admiral Jimmy: "whew...=P"
03:08:03 [PS]nimby: "ahhhhh"
03:03:05 [PS]Selvarian: "Yo, folks. Topic Check!"
03:08:10 [-GTN-]Demorian: "GCQL tends to eat up my memory and i can't open things like IE and WinAmp"
03:08:15 [-GTN-]Demorian: "sorry"
* [-GTN-]Demorian shuts up.
03:08:20 Vinco: "@nimby when combined with Winamp, it can crash an entire system."
03:09:08 [-GTN-]Demorian: "so anything else about the database itself?"
03:04:10 [PS]Selvarian: "ANYway, I will be putting it up for testing by Friday morning.I'll post the URL in the PMF Thursday night."
03:09:21 [-GTN-]Demorian: "or should we just wait to test it friday"
03:09:25 [-GTN-]Demorian: "sounds good"
03:04:28 [PS]Selvarian: "Not too much, it is still fairly simplistic."
03:04:51 [PS]Selvarian: "The goal is to get the information in a database format so that we can manage it easier and Faust/nimby can do searches."
03:05:08 [PS]Selvarian: "..against it."
03:10:19 [-GTN-]Demorian: "aye."
03:10:37 Shigernafy: "...back"
03:05:48 [PS]Selvarian: "I think we have several volunteers who are going to start combing through the Bugs/Suggestions forums starting the minute it is up and working."
* [-GTN-]Demorian nods at Shigernafy.
* [-GTN-]Lith Ragond whispered "if you need any help with that, combing the database or whatever, i would be happy to do it, just would have to tell me what i would be supposed to do"
03:07:01 [PS]Selvarian: "Over the weekend, and throughout next week, we should be able to load it up pretty good. I am also going to be putting in a version flag, so that we can specify which version of DS is having the issue."
* [PS]Selvarian whispered "Thanks."
03:12:38 [-[A]-]|2eason: "Hello, Sorry I am late...fixing network at work...got new connection, and a computer died....  "
* [PS]-mac- whispered "please put in a 'fixed', 'tested', and 'finalized' flag in there  "
* [-[A]-]AgentFritz whispered "hehe, sorry for being late..  "
* [PS]Selvarian whispered "Yeah, that is standard"
03:13:07 [-GTN-]Demorian: "its okay we just started --- Selv, the version flag is awesome, good idea "
03:13:40 [-[A]-]AgentGerbil.: "can someone fill me in on the "version flag"?"
03:08:41 [PS]Selvarian: "I don't want Faustus looking for a bug in the released version that actually occured in the beta version, or in one two version ago."
03:09:14 [PS]Selvarian: "IE, you specify which version of DS you encountered the bug in. It is simply one of the input fields."
03:14:12 [-GTN-]Demorian: "aye"
03:14:56 Shigernafy: "Vinco strikes again! .. *ominous music plays*..."
03:15:06 Vinco: "make sure you have an option for "current version" and "current beta version""
03:10:20 [PS]Selvarian: "Also, Faustus has sent me the code to the bug report tool. I am going to integrate it with the site as well."
03:15:36 [-GTN-]Demorian: "awesome."
03:10:39 [PS]Selvarian: "Bug reports will be stored in a separate database."
03:15:54 [-[A]-]|2eason: "cool"
03:11:08 [PS]Selvarian: "I am going to have it use HTTP POST instead of FTP so it can work behind virtually any sort of firewall/NAT"
03:16:20 Vinco: "THANK YOU!"
03:11:34 [PS]Selvarian: "SO, it should rarely break."
03:11:53 [PS]Selvarian: "ANYway. Questions? Requests?"
03:17:07 [-GTN-]Demorian: "no and no"
03:17:15 Vinco: "sounds good"
03:17:49 [-[A]-]AgentGerbil.: "i have a question"
* [-[A]-]AgentFritz whispered "is the meeting over already?"
03:13:07 [PS]Selvarian: "THe suggestions side will be a little less detailed in terms of the information fields submitted. Mostly classifications and the ability to attach comments to other people's suggestions."
03:18:10 [-[A]-]AgentGerbil.: "how strong will the shields be on the shield ship?"
* [PS]Selvarian whispered "Just getting started."
* [-[A]-]AgentFritz whispered "hehe, I am good "
03:13:43 [PS]Selvarian: "Not the topic at hand, Gerbil, please whisper requests to me. Thanks!"
* [-[A]-]|2eason whispered "anything up, or did I miss the meeting?"
03:14:34 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. Moving along. The reponsiblity list is coming along nicely. I am also going to post it on the site."
* [PS]Selvarian whispered "Just getting started."
03:20:04 [-GTN-]Demorian: "meaning what positions are for what moderators, etc?"
03:15:04 [PS]Selvarian: "OK, here are the topics for those who came in late:
1) Bugs/Suggs Database
2) Detailed Responsibility List for Staff
3) Stale mod removal
4) Opening up new mod selection
5) Cruise missiles
6) Second General Forum Mod
7) Status of the RoC - incompleteness
Posted moderator list"
* saber whispered "more medals badges citations possibly some given by mods or higher ranked players"
03:15:35 [PS]Selvarian: "Sorta. The inital document just details the individual tasks, chat room moderator, game referee, etc."
03:20:59 [-GTN-]Demorian: "thats what i thought. awesome."
03:21:32 Vinco: "how do we get on the list?"
03:16:56 [PS]Selvarian: "It will define them in detail. The site will also list all of the current staff members and what tasks/roles they are doing/filling and when (if the tasks are on a schedule)"
03:22:14 [-GTN-]Demorian: "sweet"
03:22:27 [PS]nimby: "@vinco I like the idea of nominations that have to be seconded"
03:17:32 [PS]Selvarian: "You will be able to make a request to fill a role/take on a task, and it will be put into the database."
03:22:40 Shigernafy: "I second that nimby.. "
03:22:45 [PS]nimby: "heh"
03:22:46 [-GTN-]Demorian: "as do i"
03:22:49 Vinco: "I'll agree to that"
03:22:55 [-[A]-]|2eason: "I second that, "
03:18:18 [PS]Selvarian: "Well, mainly, this is for existing game staff to specify what they are volunterring for."
03:23:41 [PS]nimby: "Sorry, I was skipping ahead"
03:19:10 [PS]Selvarian: "IE, if Shig says that he wants to moderate the General forum and watch the chatroom for 4 hours on Friday night from 6-10PM, then this will be where he offers/is assigned such."
03:24:28 [-GTN-]Demorian: "cool "
03:19:52 [PS]Selvarian: "It will have public access, so people can finally see a list of staff and what their responsibilities are."
* [PS]nimby applauds Selv
03:25:30 [PS]nimby: "nice work "
03:25:33 [-GTN-]Demorian: "w0000000"
03:20:38 [PS]Selvarian: "It will also detail what things can be expected of what staff members. Like, Vinco is a Newbie Instructor and a manual maintainer."
03:21:00 [PS]Selvarian: "So, people who see an error in the manual can send him a note from there."
03:26:00 Vinco: "ok"
03:26:10 Vinco: "I like that idea... in general"
03:21:09 [PS]Selvarian: "(for example)"
03:26:19 Vinco: "And I will gladly work on the manual"
03:21:33 [PS]Selvarian: "You mean you weren't already?"
03:26:54 Vinco: "I am... I'm saying I'd accept it as my official responsibility"
03:22:01 [PS]Selvarian: "ANYway. any questions/comments about the Task List."
03:22:06 [PS]Selvarian: "?"
03:27:13 [-GTN-]Demorian: "none here, i'm thoroughly impressed"
03:27:25 [PS]nimby: "ditto"
03:27:34 Admiral Jimmy: "Peanut Gallery: *cheers the new addition*"
03:27:47 [-[A]-]|2eason: "lol, quiet you!"
03:22:53 [PS]Selvarian: "(now if I can just get it all done.. stupid featuritis)"
03:28:07 [-GTN-]Demorian: "lol"
03:28:24 [ C `] Dwarden: "."
* saber whispered "hehehe when are the gm events"
03:28:44 [PS]nimby: "heh, don't forget we want to be able to order pizza inside of the Task List "
03:28:55 [-[A]-]|2eason: ":)"
* [-GTN-]Demorian has entered the room...
03:23:57 [PS]Selvarian: "Next topic. Old/inactive mod removal. As part of this initiative, we are going to cull the mod "herd" and add some new blood."
03:29:03 [-GTN-]Demorian: "sorry, GCQL Vincoed on me"
03:24:27 [PS]Selvarian: "Pizza, huh?"
* Vinco slaps [-GTN-]Demorian in the head...
* [-[A]-]AgentGerbil. whispered "you guys crack me up =)"
03:29:50 [-GTN-]Demorian: "is there a list we can see of all the mods to be remoed?"
03:25:14 [PS]Selvarian: "I have the list and am going to send a copy to Faustus. I was waiting on a couple of mods, but they haven't responded back, so they are history."
03:30:34 [-GTN-]Demorian: "okay."
03:25:43 [PS]Selvarian: "I will be doing the "cleaning" Saturday."
03:30:46 Vinco: "I take it all of us at the meeting are safe?"
03:30:49 [PS]nimby: "I think that no response is immediate terms for removal"
03:30:54 [-GTN-]Demorian: "no Vinco"
03:30:55 [-GTN-]Demorian: "i'm sorry"
03:30:56 [-GTN-]Demorian: "you're cut"
03:26:06 [PS]Selvarian: "Yes. These are people who haven't logged on in ages."
03:31:06 [-[A]-]|2eason: "Bye Vinco..."
03:31:08 [-[A]-]|2eason: ":)"
03:26:34 [PS]Selvarian: "They can petition to return to mod status, if they return and become active again."
03:26:40 [PS]Selvarian: "..and we have room."
03:26:53 [PS]Selvarian: "I will post the list in the PMF tonight."
03:31:55 [PS]nimby: "we don't want anyone to have mod power who are not familiar with the current gameplay"
* [-[A]-]AgentGerbil. whispered "why don't i see you online anymore?! =)"
* [PS]Selvarian whispered "I'm here. I'm online all the time."
* [-[A]-]AgentGerbil. whispered "i was jokeing =)"
03:33:05 [-GTN-]Demorian: "aye, nimby"
03:28:10 [PS]Selvarian: "That leads us into our next topic; one which you all have been waiting for: new mod selection."
* [-GTN-]Demorian folds his arms, leans back, and smirks.
* Shigernafy clears off the table in front of him and waits for the briefcases full of bribe money to be passed...
* [-[A]-]AgentGerbil. whispered "OH PICK ME!!!!!  j/k"
03:34:25 [-[A]-]|2eason: ":)"
03:35:06 [-GTN-]Darq Duck: "ahem does anyone need any coffee? water? shine yer shoes? girls? massage?"
03:35:08 [PS]nimby: "heh, anyone willing to pay my rent gets my password for a week ......"
03:35:10 [PS]nimby: "not"
03:30:21 [PS]Selvarian: "Right now, I have a bunch of people on my list, and I think there are a few more that I have missed"
* [-GTN-]Demorian points at [-GTN-]Darq Duck and laughs hysterically.
03:30:36 [PS]Selvarian: "Your password is gumby."
03:35:46 [-[A]-]|2eason: "rofl"
03:30:49 [PS]Selvarian: "...or it will be after the meeting...  P"
* [PS]-mac- steals nimbys password and sells it on ebay
03:35:50 [PS]-mac-: ":P"
03:35:50 [-GTN-]Demorian: "LO"
03:35:51 [-GTN-]Demorian: "LOL"
* [-[A]-]AgentGerbil. whispered "im gonna pass out from laughter pretty soon... "
03:36:08 [-GTN-]Demorian: "QUICK NIMBY, DEMOTE SELV"
03:31:32 [PS]Selvarian: "Nah, then he'd have to run the meeting."
03:36:41 [-GTN-]Demorian: "lol"
03:36:42 [PS]nimby: "heh"
03:36:43 [-[A]-]|2eason: "lol"
* [-[A]-]AgentGerbil. whispered "roflmao"
03:37:06 [PS]nimby: "OK, sorry to move away from topic"
03:37:13 [-GTN-]Demorian: "ANYWAY"
* [-GTN-]Challenger1 whispered "dont mean to bug you but im hoping im still on your list i talked to you a while ago about it"
03:32:44 [PS]Selvarian: "OK, before we talk about the new mods, I want to reinforce that any new mods made as a result of our discussion here have to pass approval of sunshine and Samweis. Also, they will be picking some candidates as well."
03:38:18 [-GTN-]Demorian: "yea mac doesn't count"
03:39:07 [PS]-mac-: "(squinches nose)"
03:34:49 [PS]Selvarian: "Also, with the cuts and the current number of mods and the potential amount of tasks/responsibilites, we have plenty of room to fill. One thing to note is that people nominated tonight will be mod candidates until they select one or more tasks/roles/responsiblities in the database."
* [-[A]-]AgentFritz whispered "yay!"
03:35:26 [PS]Selvarian: "No, mac and I will look over the nominations tonight and will have a say about the ones that the EU selects."
03:40:38 [-GTN-]Demorian: "roger"
03:40:48 [PS]nimby: "clear this up please...You can't pass beyond candidate unless you pick an area of responsibility, correct?"
03:40:54 [ C `] Dwarden: "hmm i just found what i miss for command"
03:41:05 [ C `] Dwarden: "like this one /send2admins"
* saber whispered "any in game GMs?"
03:41:08 [ C `] Dwarden: ":("
03:36:26 [PS]Selvarian: "Here's my list:
1) S21Peace
2) Lith Ragond
3) Zurai001
4) Quiic
5) [.Di.]Wolver-ITG
6) Gideon
7) Mad_Dog"
03:36:46 [PS]Selvarian: "in no particular order. Also, please add to it if I missed anyone."
* [-[A]-]AgentFritz whispered "I'm not on the list?"
03:42:01 [-GTN-]Darq Duck: "um selv.. i dont see darq duck there... are you sure? "
03:37:04 [PS]Selvarian: "I pulled that out of the PMF."
03:42:19 Vinco: "I think Panimu has done a lot in the forums."
03:42:21 [-GTN-]Demorian: "whats the procedure if i have a few that wish to have a word put in for them"
03:42:26 [-GTN-]Demorian: "and our eager young space DUCK is one of them"
03:42:44 [PS]-mac-: "name them now, dem"
03:37:46 [PS]Selvarian: "Just nominate whoever you want. "
03:43:05 [-[A]-]|2eason: "I nominate Fritz....finally talked to him..."
* [ C `] Dwarden Sent "work at new bug tracker, idea tracker etc is in progress just learning MySQL under php"
03:38:36 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. Got himm."
03:43:38 [-GTN-]Demorian: "okay, the following have asked me for my support and i have given it to them for reasons of respect: Darq Duck, Challenger1, and NeoViper."
03:44:01 [-GTN-]Demorian: "YES I KNOW, coincidentally, all members of GTN. just a coincidence"
03:44:14 [-[A]-]|2eason: "blah, no comment"
03:44:27 [-GTN-]Demorian: "THEY ASKED ME, OKAY"
03:44:27 [-GTN-]Demorian: "lol"
03:44:33 [-GTN-]Demorian: "i was doing them a faaaaaaaaaaavooooooooooooooor"
03:44:44 Shigernafy: "no worries dude... "
03:39:49 [PS]Selvarian: "Can someone take a quick look through the Moderator Feedback forum to see if we missed anyone?"
03:45:07 [-GTN-]Demorian: "i swear the entire room went quiet and people were whispering me going "..................." SHEEEEEEESH"
03:40:09 [PS]Selvarian: "I got S21Peace out of there."
03:45:16 [-GTN-]Demorian: "that was both hilarious and terrifying"
03:45:17 Shigernafy: "looks good to me Selv"
* [-[A]-]AgentGerbil. whispered "umm.. the rest of the agents want to be mods too... just kidding"
03:45:31 [-[A]-]|2eason: "Oh, I am sorry, I forgot, Can I nominate the whole clan? j/k"
* [-GTN-]Lith Ragond whispered "yes, GTN is not trying to take control of Mod World, i was interested in becoming a Mod before joining GTN, thats pretty much how i came to be in GTN, asked demo how i could become a mod and i cought his attention as a good player too"
03:45:59 Shigernafy: "I would like to nominate the other half of Taelron and Demorian, since they're only mods half the time.. "
03:41:26 [PS]Selvarian: "Ouch"
03:46:45 [-GTN-]Demorian: "and MadB|oTcH....."
03:46:46 [ C `] Dwarden: "@saber ... ?"
03:46:52 Shigernafy: "meaning the display bug.. no insult there."
03:47:25 [-[A]-]|2eason: "I am not trying to insult...just trying to lighten the mood....sorry If I offended...."
03:47:34 [-GTN-]Demorian: "i know you guys were just messing, thanks for the whispers of reassurance....its safe to say that i DON'T like things to happen like that."
03:47:43 [-GTN-]Demorian: "its okay.....just not the kind of thing i'm good at "taking""
03:47:53 [-GTN-]Demorian: "anyway"
03:47:54 [-GTN-]Demorian: "continue please"
03:42:57 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. I would suggest that we enter a closed part of the meeting to do discussions about individual mods."
03:48:17 [-GTN-]Demorian: "agreed."
* [-[A]-]AgentGerbil. whispered "..."
03:48:22 [-GTN-]Demorian: "i realized that after noticing that we are uh"
03:43:27 [PS]Selvarian: "However, I would like to do it right after we finish up with the primary topics."
03:48:23 [-GTN-]Demorian: "well"
03:48:25 [-GTN-]Demorian: "outnumbered"
03:48:31 [PS]-mac-: "hmmm Vincoized"
03:48:34 Shigernafy: "hehe"
03:48:43 Vinco: "I am too, at the moment."
03:43:46 [PS]Selvarian: "Only afew left. OK?"
03:48:47 [-[A]-]|2eason: ":)"
* [-[A]-]AgentGerbil. whispered "im just a lonely ghost in here "
03:48:50 Vinco: "getting all kinds of beautiful errors"
03:48:54 Shigernafy: "isn't it great to have a major bug named after you, Vinco? "
03:49:03 Vinco: ":p"
03:49:09 Vinco: "Me and my big keyboard"
03:49:13 Shigernafy: "I've even got an emote to complain about you..er, the bug.. "
03:49:24 Vinco: "time to crash the system... loading Winamp."
03:44:48 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. Let's move on to the last couple of issues then to the closed meeting."
03:49:59 [-GTN-]Demorian: "roger"
03:50:01 Vinco: "not enough free memory to load anything, and 52MB free physical memory shown by system monitor."
03:50:03 Vinco: "rebooting."
03:45:29 [PS]Selvarian: "#8 has already been dealt with. Mod list goes up on web site over the weekend."
* [LD]S21Peace whispered "just one question, when do we find out if were considered for Mod?"
* [PS]Selvarian whispered "You will be notified. Also, the list will be posted."
03:51:07 Vinco: "Interesting, I close GameCQ, and all the programs load normally."
03:46:32 [PS]Selvarian: "#5) Cruise missiles.. Smokey? THis one is yours"
03:51:39 Smokey: "currently cruise missles cause alot of damage to planets, they are like mini-QSB weapons and damage everything in a large area... on the smaller planets they can wipe 16 structures and 16 troops and mulitple def bases with 1 cruise missle that hits it's target... also cruise missles severly kill the population of planet thereby killing them economily.... also multiple cruise missles are used to attack ships and making more damage then IT and have a much larger range... i have seen 6-8 cru"
* [LD]S21Peace whispered "Ok thanks alot, keep up the good work, this game is pure class"
* [PS]Selvarian whispered "No problem. Thanks for your support."
03:52:14 Smokey: "i think cruise missles need to have it's own slot, like a heavy bomb slot.... currently anyone with torps, bombs, and anything else exchangable with cruise missles, can mount cruise missles making a super bomber or super attack ship (cruise missles make more damage then IT missles just slower)... a few hours before the meeting i put it to the test and converted my UGTO torp cruiser into a 5 cruise missle bomber and precided to bomb some heavy defended [C'] planets in Proycon in the MV..."
03:52:14 Shigernafy: "6-8 cru ...?"
03:52:22 Smokey: "yeah"
03:52:29 Shigernafy: "it cuts off"
03:52:33 Smokey: "oh sorry"
03:52:35 [-GTN-]Demorian: "agreed Smokey"
03:52:43 Smokey: "i have seen 6-8 cruise missles takeout a fresh destroyer in 1 shot coming from a 410a dread...""
03:52:52 Smokey: "anything else cut off?"
03:52:57 Shigernafy: "nope"
03:53:24 [-[A]-]|2eason: "be back....time to go home....."
03:53:26 Shigernafy: "well.. I'm assuming the "Procyon in the MV..." ends there?"
03:48:30 [PS]Selvarian: "nimby, you taking this down?"
03:53:33 Smokey: "basically with ease i wiped the planets clean with my cruise missles all by myself.. i took some damage but for the most i was okay"
03:53:41 [PS]nimby: "sure"
03:53:42 Shigernafy: "ah, there we go. "
03:53:43 Smokey: "Proycon in the MV... since UGTO cruiser bomber has very weak armor having the thick armor of the UGTO torp cruiser kept me alive after volley of volley of planetary def bases...""
* Vinco whispered "may I request that the "vinco bug" be added to the list of topics? "
03:54:26 Smokey: "there was a planet with 13 def and i could easily clear it with multi cruise missles"
03:49:27 [PS]Selvarian: "We've also had some players complain about K'luth with PCruises"
03:54:36 [-GTN-]Demorian: "aye, anyone can"
03:54:37 Smokey: "i have seen in the dev update today that F redid the planet code"
03:49:41 [PS]Selvarian: "along the same veins."
03:55:03 Smokey: "and that def won't fire at the same bombs anymore.. but still having multiple cruise missles they will still get by and cause massive damage"
03:55:04 [-GTN-]Demorian: "yep, Kluth can currently make uberdreads"
* [-GTN-]Lith Ragond whispered "i have to agree with him, when there are no defbases or just one, a set of cruise missles wipe everything off the planet, sometimes i wont use my mirvs for 30 minutes while bombing a system"
03:55:07 [PS]nimby: "I agree, the cruise missiles needed to be beefed up to be the weapon that they were susposed to be, however no ship should have more than 2 max"
03:55:12 [-GTN-]Demorian: "because cruise missiles do not decloak manadibles"
03:55:36 Smokey: "yes ppl shoulnd't have more then like 2..."
03:55:53 Smokey: "with a 410a you replace all the torps and have a killer combo ship firing cruise missles"
* [DOH-OF]DarkWanderer has entered the room...
03:56:32 Smokey: "i was enaged by a 410a 4500 gu away and i still got through my auto def pls i was right by a planet with 13 def and it's auto defense lasers"
03:56:46 Catfish: "arent the cruzz missiles human tek as such installed in klute ship should automatical rasie their signature ?"
03:56:49 [-GTN-]Demorian: "gotta go eat dinner quickly, guys. i'll be back ASAP to discuss the mod shtuff"
* [-[A]-]AgentGerbil. whispered "basically... this means that either you will limit the amount of cruise missiles on ships or weaken their strength?"
* [PS]Selvarian whispered "Yep, that is basically it."
03:57:23 [PS]nimby: "On a similar topic..."
03:57:47 Smokey: "yeah im done typing for the moment )"
03:58:13 [PS]nimby: "I have spoke w/F and we will be bringing the signature up when firing bombs from all factions as K'luth can launch MiRVs without being detected at the moment"
03:58:39 Smokey: "yes the all weapons of similar type thingie )"
03:53:39 [PS]Selvarian: "Nice."
03:58:45 Vinco: "can he lower the disruptor recharge time? They are currently WAY too dangerous to fire."
03:58:46 [PS]nimby: "yup"
03:59:21 [PS]nimby: "he can, we have a new addition to the K'luth fleet that might make it redundant"
03:59:35 Vinco: "is it in beta now?"
04:00:01 [PS]nimby: "there are now K'luth ships outfitted with ELF devices, will be in beta in next build ETA 4 days"
04:00:06 Vinco: "Faustus yelled at me for not testing enough when he last adjusted K;uth "
03:55:26 [PS]Selvarian: "OoooOOOooo.. nasty"
04:00:34 Vinco: "sweet...."
04:00:45 Vinco: "Hopefully more effective than the energy entity ones?"
04:00:54 Smokey: "will the elf drain the kluth around it as well? hehe"
04:00:57 Vinco: "and how will that help the recharge time?"
04:01:02 Shigernafy: "they seem effective to me...'"
04:01:03 Smokey: "like EMP..."
04:01:09 Smokey: "does for damage.."
04:01:10 [PS]nimby: "Same as eng ents"
03:57:04 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. Anything else you want to add, nimby, since we are on the subject of devel updates?"
04:02:29 [PS]nimby: "lemme check my notes..."
04:02:39 saber: "lol devil updates"
03:57:52 [PS]Selvarian: "You mean your "novel"?"
04:03:07 [PS]nimby: "heh"
04:03:38 [PS]nimby: "OK, I gave F a huge list and he is working on it...here are a few of the topics..."
03:59:03 [PS]Selvarian: "..had it delivered by semi, I heard."
04:04:23 [PS]nimby: "Damage from stars will be graduated not sudden death"
04:04:38 Smokey: "hehe"
04:04:48 Vinco: "YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1"
04:05:02 [PS]nimby: "transports will only follow orders in 1.4, you make a trade route and tell them what goods to take where"
04:05:48 Vinco: "no pd helpers?"
04:05:56 Smokey: "so i guess you could jump by a star and you will just get damaged... ? like a shortcut but it's gotta cost ya"
04:06:32 [ C `] Dwarden: "Nimby if i understood correcly you will made = kills, deaths, self destructs, crashes, friendly kills as independent ones?"
04:01:46 [PS]Selvarian: "Yeah, but I would like to see "shadowing"; staying on the dark side of Mercury and have it shield you."
04:06:49 [PS]nimby: "gee, the re is a whole bunch of stuff related to the planets/population/defenses/economy...I can't really get into without writing a major update, let me just say everyone will like much better than current system"
04:02:09 [PS]Selvarian: "OK."
04:02:13 [PS]Selvarian: "Just the highlights."
04:07:13 [-GTN-]Demorian: "i back"
04:07:20 [PS]nimby: "@Dwarden huh?"
04:07:43 [ C `] Dwarden: "Damage from stars will be graduated not sudden death"
04:07:48 [ C `] Dwarden: "what that mean"
04:08:00 [ C `] Dwarden: "damage will increase with closer distance to star?"
04:08:10 Vinco: "it means that you slowly take damage. yes."
04:03:12 [PS]Selvarian: "You take more and more damage as you get closer to the star"
04:08:26 saber: "char broil"
04:03:33 [PS]Selvarian: "until you die, rather than hitting that invisible radiation wall."
04:08:37 [ C `] Dwarden: "fine, i understood correctly...."
04:08:53 [PS]-mac-: "barbie-k'luth"
04:08:55 [-GTN-]Demorian: "Selv"
04:08:58 [-GTN-]Demorian: "about your "shadowing" thing"
04:09:01 Vinco: "Can you add a feature to cook the troops while too close to the star? Make any biological cargo degrade?"
04:09:06 [PS]nimby: "OK, planets will have "cities" that control population (with the exception of habatiable planets), the population will grow or starve acording to your farms and food production, bunkers for civ population can be put in place so that the population will never drop below a certian point...."
04:09:13 [ C `] Dwarden: "lol"
04:04:35 [PS]Selvarian: "Vinco -> only if the Umanu are present."
04:09:42 [ C `] Dwarden: "good"
04:09:44 [PS]nimby: "barren planets will not have a population unless there are the correct structures there to house them"
04:04:46 [PS]Selvarian: "Microwave weapons."
04:09:51 [-GTN-]Demorian: "something i reaaaaaaally wanna see....has anyone hever noticed how when you're just watching the game from the play menu, or looking at your ship from the engineering (F3) mode, the lighting seems much more realistic?"
04:10:01 [-GTN-]Demorian: "like the lightless side of a ship is DARK."
04:10:09 [-GTN-]Demorian: "i wanna be able to play in that mode"
04:10:16 [PS]nimby: "Defense will be upgraded to the point that a single ship can never take a planet"
04:05:19 [PS]Selvarian: "It is in that mode on my screen, Dem"
04:10:25 Vinco: "Sweet..."
* [.Di.]Quiic has entered the room...
04:10:33 [-GTN-]Demorian: "huh?"
04:10:45 Vinco: "but you'll want to reset planet caps and make them worth a lot more."
04:05:48 [PS]Selvarian: "You'll see once I post the screen shots. In fact, some of the planets radiate light that reflects off of the ships."
04:10:59 [PS]nimby: "ummm...when K'luth take a human planet or vice versa ALL the population is destroyed"
04:11:04 [-GTN-]Demorian: "is this a new mode, Selv?"
04:11:24 Vinco: "Ooohhhh..... better add some cloning vats"
04:06:35 [PS]Selvarian: "Well, it was in the beta server, but the rendering code hasn't changed much in a while. Might be a problem with a Direct3D setting"
04:11:37 [PS]nimby: "reworking the ICC ships some, mines and sabots will be onstage again"
04:11:51 [-GTN-]Demorian: "ah."
04:11:57 [PS]nimby: "and......the nig one........"
04:12:04 Vinco: "Also, is there a way to lessen the graphics load in nebulas? It becomes almost unplayable for me."
04:12:09 [PS]nimby: "I am increasing the scale of the universe"
04:12:10 [-GTN-]Demorian: "yes, nimby?"
04:12:20 [-GTN-]Demorian: "as in planet size?"
04:07:26 [PS]Selvarian: "Hmmm. I wonder who suggested that one."
04:12:32 Vinco: "lol"
04:12:35 saber: "?"
04:12:37 [-GTN-]Demorian: "SWEET."
04:12:43 Shigernafy: "heh.. there was talk, Vinco, of making Nebula's scalable, as in able to change size, perhaps bigger.. more fun for your system.. "
04:12:43 [PS]nimby: "all the planets will be appx 2x their size and orbits will change accordingly"
04:13:04 Vinco: "What about jump speed."
04:13:20 Vinco: "It already takes forever in some systems (*cough SOL*)"
04:08:24 [PS]Selvarian: "Jump speed should increase proportionately"
04:13:23 Shigernafy: "I still like the graduated speed.. further you are from gravity sources, faster you go.."
04:13:27 [-GTN-]Demorian: "nimby, will the faster drives ever be introduced, ie ones that use the animation visible in the screenshot section (looks like a wormhole)"
04:13:28 saber: "any hope of playing in an atmosphere?"
04:13:29 [PS]nimby: "we may increase jump speed, we have to see how big the systems get first"
04:13:37 [-GTN-]Demorian: "i'd like to see a jump drive that travels 1.5 times as fast"
04:13:45 [ C `] Dwarden: "Nimby"
04:13:51 [PS]nimby: "yes?"
04:14:01 Shigernafy: "so Sol, with its LARGE spaces between planets, would get you really zooming in the open.."
04:14:05 [ C `] Dwarden: "small note when we made trade routes will be AI clever and take care about fastly moving objects?"
04:14:10 [ C `] Dwarden: "like pulsar stars?"
04:14:46 [ C `] Dwarden: "in my maps is AI moving throught star/planets orbit (rapid orbital speeds) and of course dying"
04:14:56 [PS]nimby: "we want it to, if there are problems we will fix them, this actually makes the AI have to work less so it will be an improvement"
* [.Di.]Quiic has entered the room...
04:15:23 [ C `] Dwarden: "oki i hope, cause jump ability still not solve problem with jump into moving star"
04:15:30 [PS]nimby: "OK, I have to go in a few here..."
04:10:41 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. Well, we need to move on to the last item or two so we can do the new mod discussion."
* [ C `] Dwarden waves to [PS]nimby...
04:15:50 [ C `] Dwarden: "thx for small info"
04:15:51 saber: "will the fog of war be thickening?"
04:11:01 [PS]Selvarian: "Vinco needs a backup to moderate the General Forum."
04:16:14 [.Di.]Quiic: "I can"
04:16:23 Shigernafy: "I can help out there too, if needed. I always read it too, so why not?"
04:16:31 [PS]nimby: "I would like to say I am pleased and impressed with the way the meeting has gone and all that everyone has done and are doing for DS "
04:16:38 Vinco: "I run into some heavy loads at school sometimes, and I'll be out of the country in a few weeks."
04:16:41 Shigernafy: "(course, by that standard, I could moderate most forums)"
* [PS]-mac- smiles at [PS]nimby...
* Shigernafy blushes...
04:16:55 Smokey: "glad you were here nimby... )"
04:17:12 Shigernafy: "thanks for stopping by nimby, and thanks to you too.. great game... "
04:17:13 [PS]nimby: "My pleasure "
04:17:14 Vinco: "It was nice to finally have a dev show up (hint, hint)"
04:17:29 Smokey: "yeah vinco"
04:12:37 [PS]Selvarian: "Also, I would like mods to consider taking over some of the various forums that Faustus is listed in. He's got a lot of things he needs to be focusing on and moderating forums isn't high on the priority list. He can still moderate anyway (as can any admin), so this is not an issue."
04:17:47 [PS]nimby: "hey! I wish I could be around more, I try, gotta have some life outside of DS"
04:18:03 Vinco: "lol. I understand."
04:18:10 Shigernafy: "there's something outside DS? Why wasn't I informed?"
04:18:12 [ C `] Dwarden: "hehe nimby"
04:18:18 Smokey: "hehe"
04:18:23 [ C `] Dwarden: "we need 12hrs per day more lol"
04:18:24 Vinco: "I'll help with the soapbox, if needed."
04:18:29 [PS]nimby: "OK, logging, see y'all soon"
04:13:37 [PS]Selvarian: "Yes, thanks for attending, nimby, I was a PLEASANT surprise to see one of you visit."
04:18:42 [-GTN-]Demorian: "later nimb"
04:18:43 [.Di.]Quiic: "later nimby"
04:18:43 [PS]-mac-: "cya nimby"
* Vinco salutes [PS]Selvarian.
04:13:49 [PS]Selvarian: "it"
* Vinco salutes [PS]nimby.
* [-GTN-]Demorian salutes [PS]nimby.
* [ C `] Dwarden waves to [PS]nimby...
* [.Di.]Quiic snores then [PS]nimby slaps him awake
04:19:16 Shigernafy: "adios Nimby"
04:19:37 [-GTN-]Demorian: "whats next?"
04:19:52 [-[A]-]|2eason: "back...."
04:15:17 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. When the resp list goes up later this week, you all can see what is left open and uncovered anyway."
04:15:43 [PS]Selvarian: "Last item was about the RoC and some incompleteness in it. mac?"
04:21:40 [PS]-mac-: "I see a few sections that aren't (or seem to be in-) complete in the RoC ... we need to get that document 100%, as it's our main 'bible', so to speak"
04:17:14 [PS]Selvarian: "Which ones?"
04:22:13 [PS]-mac-: "More or less, elaborate on the sections that need it"
04:22:52 [PS]-mac-: "3.1.5 Chat Room-Specific Behavior - only one subsection, could be a few more"
04:22:59 [-GTN-]Demorian: "amen"
04:23:03 [-GTN-]Demorian: "(no offense selv )"
04:18:31 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. No offense taken here. I have ALWAYS begged for peer review."
04:23:47 [ C `] Dwarden: "Selv"
04:23:52 [-[A]-]|2eason: ":)"
04:19:05 [PS]Selvarian: "It's everyone's duty to point out problems and omissions in the RoC."
04:24:07 [ C `] Dwarden: "can u please specify for some ignorant into ROC that AI farming AI transports is still exploiting"
04:24:22 [ C `] Dwarden: "some people trying agrue that AI = monster, entity"
04:24:27 [ C `] Dwarden: "not transport"
04:19:44 [PS]Selvarian: "Yeah, I meant to change that from "monster" to "AI (monster, transport, etc)""
04:24:54 Shigernafy: "yes, trans farming. Or just toast the pres gain on them..."
04:25:01 [ C `] Dwarden: "yeah that can fix this aruge"
04:25:10 [ C `] Dwarden: "DAMN"
04:25:11 Shigernafy: "since killing them is a valid military tactic (if they ever do anything useful)"
04:25:14 [ C `] Dwarden: "i forgot force nimby"
04:25:19 [ C `] Dwarden: "to disable AI prestige"
04:20:26 [PS]Selvarian: "Mac -> what all would you like added to 3.1.5?"
* [-[A]-]AgentGerbil. whispered "i agree... i see lots of people going after the monsters constantly in MV"
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04:41:42 [-[A]-]AgentGerbil.: "ok"
04:41:42 saber: "shouldnt you also get a small amount of pres for shooting down enemy missiles and fighters?"
04:41:43 Smokey: "yeah"
04:41:47 [Grunts]tragicx: "Also, any rank, badge prerequisites for sheild ship?"
04:36:53 [PS]Selvarian: "No, these are questions for nimby/Faustus"
04:42:07 [-GTN-]Demorian: "agreed Shigidy - Gerbil, we don't know much more than you do"
04:42:24 [PS]-mac-: "nothing's been put out for us to look at yet, so any answers would be more or less hypothetical at this point"
04:42:25 Shigernafy: "you'll have to find out just like we do - check the Dev Updates forum and watch the beta servers.. "
04:38:31 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. Well, I want to close the open meeting here. We need to do a quick discussion of mod candidates."
* [-GTN-]Demorian has entered the room...
04:43:31 saber: "opinions"
04:43:35 [-GTN-]Demorian: "sorry, GCQL Vincoed again"
* Vinco salutes [-GTN-]Demorian.
* Vinco kicks [-GTN-]Demorian
04:43:51 [-[A]-]|2eason: ":)"
* Vinco slaps [-GTN-]Demorian in the head...
* [-[A]-]AgentGerbil. whispered "oh and btw... i'm sorry about earlier.... i didn't have time to read the RoC about Mod meetings so i didn't reallly know what to do and what not to do "
04:44:06 Vinco: "I hate being stuck with this bug "
04:44:17 [-[A]-]AgentGerbil.: "rofl"
04:44:28 [-GTN-]Demorian: "okeedoke"
04:39:33 [PS]Selvarian: "Opinions, saber? Well, no, I don't think you should get prestige for destroying deployed ship weapon systems."
04:44:35 [-GTN-]Demorian: "this part of the meeting is private correct?"
04:44:40 [-[A]-]AgentGerbil.: ""Vinco, the new word in the dictionary" - a DS bug "
04:44:44 Shigernafy: "are these discussions ever "quick"?"
04:40:10 [PS]Selvarian: "bombs, missiles, fighters, etc."
04:40:14 [PS]Selvarian: "We can try, Shig"
04:45:12 Shigernafy: ":)"
04:45:24 saber: "not even fighters from carriers in effect thats what you said with the shield ship"
04:45:26 [-[A]-]|2eason: "Well, the discussions are getting 10minutes of my time, "
04:45:31 [-[A]-]|2eason: "heh"
04:40:39 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. At this point, we need all non game staff to please exit the room."
* [-GTN-]Demorian kicks them all out.
04:41:01 [PS]Selvarian: "Thanks!"
* [-GTN-]Demorian points at Maturin and laughs hysterically.
* [-GTN-]Demorian then pushes him out the door.
04:46:32 Shigernafy: "methinks we have some afk'ers"
04:46:43 [-GTN-]Demorian: "me agrees"
04:46:44 Shigernafy: "can you give them a 1 minute ban?"
04:46:44 [-GTN-]Demorian: "new room?"
04:46:45 [-[A]-]|2eason: "perhaps..."
04:41:50 [PS]Selvarian: "Ragg, Maturin?"
04:46:47 [-GTN-]Demorian: "i'll make it."
* Smokey pokes [BIS]Ragglock in the ribs with a VERY long stick...
04:42:05 [PS]Selvarian: "Yeah, I can kick them, then delete the ban"
04:47:08 [-GTN-]Demorian: "making new private room"
04:47:17 Shigernafy: "nah Dem"
* [-GTN-]Demorian has entered the room...
04:47:28 [-GTN-]Demorian: "OR NOT"
04:47:30 [-GTN-]Demorian: "lol"
04:47:44 Shigernafy: "your call Selv.. you're in charge here..."
04:42:47 [PS]Selvarian: "Yo, folks, 10 secs and I'll have to push you out."
04:48:08 Vinco: "I'm not idling!"
* [PS]Selvarian has kicked Maturin...
04:48:19 Shigernafy: "not you.."
04:48:19 [-GTN-]Demorian: "VInco"
04:48:21 [-GTN-]Demorian: "you have to leave"
* Shigernafy smacks Vinco upside the head...
04:48:22 [-GTN-]Demorian: "you're cut"
* Failed to kick "[BIS]Ragglock"...
* [-[A]-]|2eason nails [BIS]Ragglock with the Af-Duster 9000, thus, sending him to Af to colonize it
* [-GTN-]Demorian slaps [BIS]Ragglock.
04:48:45 [-[A]-]|2eason: ":)"
04:49:12 [-[A]-]|2eason: "5 min........"
04:49:13 [-[A]-]|2eason: ":)"
* Downloading profile information on '[BIS]Ragglock'...
04:49:20 Vinco: "Can I kick Demorian, PLEASE???"
* Failed to kick "[BIS]Ragglock"...
04:49:32 [-GTN-]Demorian: "Vinco"
04:49:34 [-GTN-]Demorian: "you can't kick me"
04:49:35 [-GTN-]Demorian: "you're cut"
04:49:40 [-[A]-]|2eason: "Nah, I am sure Dem will get vincoed in a sec..."
04:49:43 [-[A]-]|2eason: ";)"
04:49:50 Shigernafy: "Vinco strikes again! .. *ominous music plays*..."
04:49:58 Shigernafy: ":) Just cause its fun.."
04:50:00 [-GTN-]Demorian: "i already am vincoed, just not doing anything so it doesn't go boom"
04:45:06 [PS]Selvarian: "Weird. Ragglock is stuck."
04:50:14 [-[A]-]|2eason: "heh"
04:50:18 Vinco: "hmmmm"
04:50:19 Smokey: "hehehe"
04:50:19 Shigernafy: "you can't kick him, or what?"
* [BIS]Ragglock has been kicked by Vinco...
04:50:27 [PS]-mac-: "nope"
04:50:28 [-GTN-]Demorian: "new room!!!"
04:50:34 Shigernafy: "that works.."
04:50:34 Vinco: "I took care of it"
04:45:34 [PS]Selvarian: "OK. He left."
04:50:35 [PS]-mac-: "hmm"
04:50:36 [-GTN-]Demorian: "NICE, ^_^"
04:50:38 [-[A]-]|2eason: "there he goes..."
04:50:38 Shigernafy: "haha"
04:50:40 [-[A]-]|2eason: "lol"
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