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Dev Meeting Log: January 23, 2006

Bobamelius
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Joined: October 08, 2002
Posts: 2074
From: Ohio

Posted: 2006-01-23 20:42

02:00:48 [Admin]Tael: "ok, back"
02:00:58 [=R=]Crim {Fear}: "Wee."
02:01:08 [Admin]Tael: "so this will be short since there isnt much i can say, but first I will start with the status of things..."
* EVENT: 'Developer Meeting ~ Tael' event is starting now...
02:01:38 [Admin]Tael: "Source code server is working again so I have a full sync of the source code, meaning i can implement low level code changes necessary"
* [FS]Josef puts on his giant foam finger
02:02:23 [Admin]Tael: "Resourcer is borked, i am only getting about half of the objects, so cant make changes to the ship layouts just yet. I have F trying to fix that"
02:02:46 [Admin]Tael: "So I will be tweaking all the devices in code before updating any ship layouts."
* [-GTN-]Enterprise waves his " I ¢¾ Tael " flag...
02:03:03 [Admin]Tael: "Change to the device levels are now, Ships Hull size sets the level."
* [Raven]Kit {Polaris} nods at [CS]CharAznable...
* [=R=]Crim {Fear} paints his chest teal..
02:03:17 [Admin]Tael: "This means bigger ships get bigger guns, bigger armor..."
* [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack* grins
02:03:29 [Raven]Kit {Polaris}: "Yay.."
02:03:33 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "Basicly, how it should always of been?"
02:03:38 Antdizzle: "Quiet!"
* [=R=]Crim {Fear} @74050 sent to Friends: "Not in beta"
* Dragonslayer *S4* falls over dead
02:03:39 [*CEC*]Troy Mars *S1*: "finally no more super scouts"
02:03:47 [-GTN-]Starfist: "are we still gonna experence the power drain on the EAD"
02:03:47 Antdizzle: "No comments until after he is done!"
02:03:53 Antdizzle: "You are ruining the experience."
02:03:59 [-GTN-]Enterprise: "What Ant said."
02:04:03 [Admin]Tael: "I will be doing some extra calcs for devices like ECM, so say a Dread hull size 8 wont have level 8 senors, instead it will be base 10 - hull size"
02:04:04 Dragonslayer *S4*: ".."
02:04:09 [-GTN-]Enterprise: "Lets just keep quiet until he says what he has to say. "
02:04:11 [Admin]Tael: "so scouts will still rule there."
* Dragonslayer *S4* has a question and rasies his hand
02:04:39 [Admin]Tael: "Energy generation will be determined by the hull size too,so bigger ships have larger engines and reactors."
* Joining 'Developer Meeting'...
20:04:52 [Admin]Tael: "hold all questions just a sec"
20:05:01 [Admin]Tael: "Core weapons are coming off the dreads."
20:05:03 [Admin]Tael: "for now"
20:05:16 [Admin]Tael: "The stations will keep them, but reload time is being increased."
20:05:58 [Admin]Tael: "the base dreads are getting weapons to reflect their roles. Which means the 410, EAD, and Brood will have heavy weapons... Down side is few quick weapons."
20:06:10 [Admin]Tael: "meaning fewer low level PB style beams or armorment."
20:06:33 [Admin]Tael: "thus dreads will be slugging it out, but small nimble ships have a chance to sting them in numbers"
20:07:07 [Admin]Tael: "This will also mean there will be reasons to mixed fleets"
20:07:56 [Admin]Tael: "All dread fleet will LOOK nice, but if a bunch of dessies run on them fast and pull back in waves, the dreads are gonna hurt. if the small ships try to stay and slug it out, they are toast"
20:08:24 [Admin]Tael: "Mods are being switched to device upgrade paths... "
20:08:47 [Admin]Tael: "Instead of building a device, if i understand what F said, and how I am coding it, you have a choice at the shipyard now."
20:09:08 [Admin]Tael: "you go, select your ECM and then you get to choose to replace it with ECCM or not"
20:09:10 [=R=]Crim {Fear}: "o/!..er.uh"
20:09:22 [Admin]Tael: "not all devices will have options... some will"
20:09:27 Dragonslayer *S4*: "cool"
20:09:29 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "Yeh, that's what me and draf proposed to him, and he seemed to like it."
20:09:30 [Admin]Tael: "thats going to be the hardest to balance out."
20:09:56 [Admin]Tael: "which means for beams I will make some do short range and high damage, or longer range, less damage..."
20:10:22 [Admin]Tael: "and I am going to try and slip in a new planet type if time permits."
* [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack* dances
20:10:38 [Admin]Tael: "Want to add Toxic, cause lets face it, Venus is not a Terran world. lol"
20:10:53 [=R=]Crim {Fear}: ":P"
20:10:57 [-GTN-]Enterprise: "You'd have to rewrite DS history. =P"
20:11:00 [Raven]Kit {Polaris}: "Who'd want to live on a toxic planet, though? -.-"
20:11:11 [=R=]Lacro: "ME!"
20:11:11 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "Nice minerals Kit."
20:11:18 [FS]Josef: "I know a whole race that wouldn't mind"
20:11:18 Dragonslayer *S4*: "me"
20:11:26 [=R=]Crim {Fear}: "We have goththug to supply the toxic materials tael, dont worry"
20:11:29 [-GTN-]Enterprise: "It states specifically how Venus was successfully terraformed. )"
20:11:54 Atom$k: "hmm...will that change planetary stats? as in, will Venus now require more Domes"
20:11:59 Obiwan: "ent's right it does state that in the manual"
20:12:02 Dragonslayer *S4*: "Will the rank requirments change like the last update did?"
20:12:04 [Admin]Tael: "i have some ideas for changes to solar gens to make them worthwhile again... their strength of power will be dertermined by star type and range from star"
20:12:07 [FS]Josef: "Thats a simple enough fix, just mention something about a Goth Thug Event Horizon opening up"
20:12:08 [Admin]Tael: "so closer the better"
20:12:18 [FS]Josef: "A GTEH for short"
20:12:20 [CS]CharAznable: "they lied.. it was a marketing gimmik"
20:12:40 [=R=]Crim {Fear}: "Er actualy tael, I had a peice of pure sane-ness when I first heard, and mis read that..."
20:12:41 [Admin]Tael: "the solar changes may wait till later though"
20:12:52 [-GTN-]Starfist: "no bobdy uses solar gens "
20:12:57 [*CEC*]Troy Mars *S1*: "will the solar gens average out or will it still fluxuate?"
20:13:00 [=R=]Crim {Fear}: "Solar Generators on ships..Power drain wont be a problem, if your closer to a star"
20:13:05 [-GTN-]Starfist: "body*"
20:13:12 [=R=]Crim {Fear}: "farther out, it will be"
20:13:22 Dragonslayer *S4*: "Will the rank requirments change like the last update did?"
20:13:22 [Admin]Tael: "They will when Solars in orbit region 2 are producing more than variance"
20:13:38 [-GTN-]Bobamelius: "I REALLY like the upgrade path thingy... now I can put a generator right on there rather than hassle with replacing an ECM or something"
20:13:35 [-GTN-]Enterprise: "Defence bases with tractor beams. =P"
20:13:42 [=R=]Crim {Fear}: "So, Luth in Sirius, and ICC in Tau would be nice, along with a UGTO system to"
20:13:48 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "An EAD question here. The Siphon has 6 reactors (possible), allowing it to do whatever it wants, whereas the EAD has only a max of two, yet has a higher energy requirement from pretty much all of its weapons. "
20:13:51 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: " This makes no sense since beams now do incredibly low damage and suck up a large amount of energy. Will these both be changed to make the EAD have a chance again? (And also to remove the power source on the Siphon (since it was never meant to be a power house(no kluth are))."
20:13:51 [=R=]Lacro: "Thats evil Ent."
20:13:53 [FS]Josef: "yes! Tractor beam bases!"
20:13:58 [Admin]Tael: "ships will probably change in requirements, but thats something we will look at after I figure them all out."
20:14:14 Dragonslayer *S4*: "ok ty"
20:14:14 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "WIll those changes have to wait till the resourcers fixed, or can those types of problems be solved quickly (now)?"
20:14:21 Antdizzle: "I hope you are all proud. You runied the developer meeting."
20:14:30 [-GTN-]Enterprise: "Jack...wants his EAD fixed like the rest of us. However to do that, we also need to take in the scope of every other assault ship..."
20:14:36 [*BUM*]holybum: "there you go again messing with kluth ships"
20:14:36 [Admin]Tael: "i have new spread sheets set up so they read each other, so as I change a spec in one page, it updates all other pages so I can see how each change affects everything at once."
20:14:42 [-GTN-]Enterprise: "Also with what Tael has planned..."
20:14:46 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "I was getting tired of keeping that in the chat buffer whillst cutting it and pasting it

"
20:15:00 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "Nice"
20:15:08 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "Just don't forget how the factions work

"
20:15:12 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "Damage over time, etc

"
20:15:16 Antdizzle: "Will 1.484 come out this year?"
20:15:16 [=R=]Crim {Fear}: "but see! With my Solar Generators on ships, power drain can be come childsplay!..>.>.."
20:15:21 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "Gideon seemed to forget that when he did his calculations."
20:15:27 RagAnok: "can you change the cloak timer??"
20:15:48 [Admin]Tael: "ead, 410, and brood are gonna see significant changes to their layouts."
20:16:04 [Admin]Tael: "heavy slow weapons, good armor... but minimal defensive weapons."
20:16:09 Antdizzle: "Any plans for a new super station?"
20:16:15 [FS]Josef: "solar powered ships don't seem very practical"
20:16:18 Antdizzle: "Cool"
20:16:28 [-GTN-]Enterprise: "Might want to tweak the ICC Assault dread to opt for more defence than its assault cousins, as ICC are the defensive faction. =P"
20:16:32 [*BUM*]holybum: "but will beam weapons actualy do damage to ships now"
20:16:37 [=R=]Crim {Fear}: "Actualy Josef, it'd be nice to have"
20:16:42 [Admin]Tael: "cloaks timers are being reworked and balanced on size of ship again. but faster unclock times for sure."
20:16:50 [=R=]Crim {Fear}: "but meh"
20:16:53 [Admin]Tael: "solar power only on planets for now. lol"
20:16:56 [CS]CharAznable: "Solar Sails would be cool

"
20:17:06 [CS]CharAznable: "Yarrrgh!"
20:17:07 [-GTN-]Enterprise: "Cloaking planets would rock. XD"
20:17:15 Antdizzle: "How about a ship powered by feces?"
20:17:17 [=R=]Crim {Fear}: "We tried Char

"
20:17:18 Atom$k: "as far as I know, solar sails have no fictional practical use other than propulsion. not enough power"
20:17:23 [-GTN-]Enterprise: "'Sag Hottha has been beaconed!'"
20:17:25 [Raven]Kit {Polaris}: "Yeah, something like a "Deploy solar sail" option.."
20:17:28 [-GTN-]Starfist: "is bombing going to be fixed, from what understood before this patch that you couldnt bomb planets alone"
20:17:28 Atom$k: "*not enough power for anything else"
20:17:29 [*BUM*]holybum: "what about beacons stacking and the time limit"
20:17:31 [Admin]Tael: "i'll cloak S1 and then you can decide what you think"
20:17:49 [-GTN-]Enterprise: "Id cheer. =D"
20:17:57 Atom$k: "also seems more like something for a luxury vehicle anyway, seeing as they'd be easy to shoot down and impossible to cover by shield gens"
20:17:58 [FS]Josef: "How about the option to upgrade your ship's size for a price."
20:18:04 [=R=]Crim {Fear}: "You'd create a new DS passtime teal.."
20:18:18 [Admin]Tael: "Bombing is one of my primary concerns, planets defenses are getting boosted some more, bomb damage is being SIGNIFICANTLY lowered."
20:18:19 Antdizzle: "It takes too long to destroy planets. Can you make it easier to bomb?"
20:18:25 [-GTN-]Enterprise: "Actually, it would be nice to have field generators for Kluth which would disrupt bomb tracking. =P A good defence measure . XD"
20:18:28 Antdizzle: "The ED is too weak, can you make it stronger?"
* [-GTN-]Starfist slaps Antdizzle in the head...
20:18:48 [Admin]Tael: "reason bombing points are out of hand is because the bomb damage is to high already."
* [Raven]Kit {Polaris} slaps Antdizzle in the head...
20:19:14 [Admin]Tael: "so bringing it back in line... "
20:19:14 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "Woot"
20:19:26 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "Tael, is there anything that can be done concerning rolling back some profiles."
20:19:28 [-GTN-]Bobamelius: "Isn't there a bug where bombs damage everything on the planet?"
20:19:41 Antdizzle: "Roll back profiles 4 or 5 years."
20:19:45 [-GTN-]Enterprise: "Its a threshold thing Bob."
20:19:48 [Admin]Tael: "so i may lower building HP's to match some, but figure they will drop maybe only a third at most while bombing damage is dropping 2/3rds atleast"
20:19:48 Antdizzle: "or do a complete wipe!"
20:19:52 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "Because, although some people are happy to let them be, 35k in prestige because someone forgot to fix a little ditty in the code doesn't sit well with me

"
20:19:56 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "And probably others too."
20:20:01 [Admin]Tael: "we said no more wipes."
20:20:08 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "Not whipes"
20:20:10 [*BUM*]holybum: "jack the people who bombed there way to fa and above have done it"
20:20:12 Antdizzle: "Ah man.

"
20:20:13 [FS]Josef: "or 180k"
20:20:15 [*BUM*]holybum: "leave it at that"
20:20:17 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "Just calculations, and adjusting acording to certain things."
20:20:19 RagAnok: "wait jack what abot us who di most of their bomb in other versions"
* [FS]Josef looks at no-one in particular
20:20:25 [=R=]Lacro: "What about the arc bug?"
20:20:27 [Admin]Tael: "i may look to lower the points for bombing as well."
20:20:32 [Admin]Tael: "that will affect everyone though"
20:20:41 [-GTN-]Enterprise: "Well Tael look at it this way."
20:20:48 [-GTN-]Enterprise: "Before the path, not many people had very many bombing points."
20:20:53 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "Well, if bombing is say, over 50% of your total prestige, you get it rolled back a certain percent."
20:20:59 [=R=]Crim {Fear}: "I did.."
20:21:03 Antdizzle: "That is unfair."
20:21:07 [=R=]Crim {Fear}: "but er uh"
20:21:09 [-GTN-]Enterprise: "This path, many people gained it quickly and easily. Those who abused it, will suffer ALOT more than those who did not."
20:21:13 Antdizzle: "Let them keep their prestige or remove it all."
20:21:14 [Raven]Kit {Polaris}: "What if you did all yor bombing in the last patches?"
20:21:18 [Admin]Tael: "F's stand is no wipes or edits..."
20:21:25 [=R=]Crim {Fear}: "I had my bombing mostly done before .483.."
20:21:26 [Raven]Kit {Polaris}: "Let them keep it."
20:21:30 Antdizzle: "Faustus isn't here."
20:21:33 [*CEC*]Troy Mars *S1*: "yes my concern is the arc bug...."
20:21:34 [Raven]Kit {Polaris}: "If they really are as inexperienced in combat.."
20:21:34 [Admin]Tael: "so we may lower the number of points from bombing, ie edit how its calculated"
20:21:35 Antdizzle: "You are in control now."
20:21:36 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "Yes, well F screwed up on this one, and he can fix it."
20:21:38 [=R=]Crim {Fear}: "All i've done his version, is pass KC.."
20:21:38 Antdizzle: "Take over."
20:21:40 [Raven]Kit {Polaris}: "Then they can lose it."
20:21:46 [Raven]Kit {Polaris}: "In combat."
20:21:57 [Raven]Kit {Polaris}: "So let them be."
20:21:58 RagAnok: "i have not done much bombing in this ver because of the in balance but have done alot of it in the other vers"
20:22:04 [*BUM*]holybum: "good and then up construction pres to"
20:22:13 [Admin]Tael: "anyways, other devices with upgrade paths will be fighters."
20:22:18 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "Because it's people like me, and the other half of this community, who've spent time (and hard earned money for that time) gaining legit prestige. only to see us being over shot by new players in a matter of days, or weeks."
20:22:22 Antdizzle: "As soon as this dev meeting is over, I am going to bomb my way to to the top."
20:22:26 [Admin]Tael: "I am going to remove Missiles from the fighters to reduce graphics lag"
20:22:35 [-GTN-]Enterprise: "w00t."
20:22:41 [CS]CharAznable: "woot"
20:22:42 Antdizzle: "ETA on the patch?"
20:22:44 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "Woohoo"
20:22:53 Antdizzle: "There will still be lag."
20:22:58 Antdizzle: "Darkspace == lag."
20:23:03 [FS]Josef: "and replacing them with tractor beams?"
20:23:06 [Admin]Tael: "fighters are going back to cannons and beams... maybe sabots because they are fire forget"
20:23:10 JRE: "How about fighters that dont die from one blast from a beam?"
20:23:10 [Raven]Kit {Polaris}: "Let them keep it, Backslash. If they really are that inexperienced in all other things, and the bombing style changes, they'll start losing pres, the hard way."
20:23:16 [*BUM*]holybum: "will you fix the eccm ping thing"
20:23:28 [Admin]Tael: "i cant do anything for the netcode, but i can allievate some of the graphics lag."
20:23:42 RagAnok: "true jack but i earn what i got the hard way "
20:23:44 Antdizzle: "Ask Faustus for full access to the code."
20:23:49 Antdizzle: "Then you can make more changes."
20:23:50 [Admin]Tael: "anyways, thats all i got for now."
20:23:52 Antdizzle: "Fix the game."
20:23:57 [FS]Josef: "I have no idea what the ping thing is, but it sounds cool"
20:24:03 [Admin]Tael: "i have full code access, i dont understand what he's got for net code"
* [CS]CharAznable begins applauding [Admin]Tael...
20:24:16 [*BUM*]holybum: "ask spider nim"
* Antdizzle waves to [Admin]Faustus...
20:24:20 Antdizzle: "Faustus!"
* [-GTN-]Enterprise slaps Antdizzle in the head...
20:24:44 [FS]F4741 .MeLLyMoo.: "..."
* [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack* slaps Antdizzle in the head...
* [FS]Josef waves to [Dunce]Antdizzle...
20:24:53 [FS]Josef: "Antdizzle!"
20:24:54 [=R=]Crim {Fear}: "Er yeah actualy tael.."
20:24:59 [*BUM*]holybum: "make it so when you try to turn on and off eccm rapidly the ship explodes"
20:25:11 [-GTN-]Bobamelius: "lol holy"
20:25:10 Antdizzle: "Rewrite the netcode."
20:25:12 Antdizzle: "I have faith in you."
20:25:19 Antdizzle: "You can do anything you put your mind to."
20:25:20 [=R=]Crim {Fear}: "About ECCM/ECM pinging, why isnt it considered an exploit?"
20:25:21 [Admin]Tael: "Ok, well then i think we can wrap this up"
20:25:27 [FS]F4741 .MeLLyMoo.: "Is there going to be less complaints about this arc bug issue?"
20:25:28 [Admin]Tael: "i have to get back into Excel."
20:25:29 [TK]Grimith {Construction is All!}: "Tael, if you don't mind, I was hoping you could answer a question for me about a point you made earlier, concerning the shaving down of levels for special devices on ships."
20:25:40 [-GTN-]Starfist: "is the icc bomber dread gonna lose some bays, me thinks 9 is to much for a defenceive faction thats more like an offensive ship which UGTO should be"
20:25:40 [FS]F4741 .MeLLyMoo.: "*are"
20:25:43 Antdizzle: "Daty entry job?"
20:25:51 [Admin]Tael: "its not now, but F said we will put a timer limit on how many times it can be toggled off on"
20:25:56 [FS]Josef: "I think Faustus borrowed the netcode from Command & Conquer"
20:26:04 [Admin]Tael: "the bomber dread is going back to 6 i think"
20:26:08 Antdizzle: "ha ha ha ha ha Josef"
20:26:10 Antdizzle: "That was funny."
20:26:16 [=R=]Crim {Fear}: "21:25:40 [-GTN-]Starfist: "is the icc bomber dread gonna lose some bays, me thinks 9 is to much for a defenceive faction thats more like an offensive ship which UGTO should be"...From a UGTO player

"
20:26:24 [FS]Josef: "I aim to please"
20:26:33 [TK]Grimith {Construction is All!}: "You had said that you'd be doing calculations for the special devices like on a base ten - the size of the hull/type of ship. So, I was wondering... would that render the station useless when it comes to special slots?"
20:26:34 Antdizzle: "Any news on why Faustus isn't talking to the community?"
20:26:47 Antdizzle: "Does he really work that much?"
20:26:48 [Admin]Tael: "so remember no more building devices, there are instant device switches at shipyards"
20:26:54 [=R=]Crim {Fear}: "That works for later on tael, but beacons/eccm pinging for luth now= fruitless fight for the lobsters"
20:27:04 [Admin]Tael: "far as i know he is working a lot..."
20:27:16 [Admin]Tael: "I set stations to device level 5, so they are mid way"
20:27:22 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "On the new server?"
20:27:24 Antdizzle: ":("
20:27:28 [Admin]Tael: "their armor gets set by a different value"
20:27:33 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "Might be a good idea to set stations weapons as 5"
20:27:37 [FS]Josef: "Shelves don't get stocked at the Gulp n' Blow by themselves"
20:27:37 Antdizzle: "He is working at his other job."
20:27:39 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "And defence as 15 or so."
20:27:55 Antdizzle: "ha hha h hahaha"
20:27:59 Antdizzle: "That was also funny josef"
20:28:04 Antdizzle: "you are so funny"
20:28:06 Antdizzle: "lol"
20:28:13 [*BUM*]holybum: "yes keep faction tech restricted"
20:28:16 [TK]Grimith {Construction is All!}: "All right, Tael. That answers it for me. I was a bit worried that the stations would have -no- special slots."
20:28:28 [TK]Grimith {Construction is All!}: "Thank you."
20:28:35 [Admin]Tael: "armor is set by Hull size, stations are 11, gadgets and weapons are set by HullGadgetLevel which is 5"
20:28:37 [*BUM*]holybum: "as kluth are the hunter faction that needs speed"
20:28:42 Antdizzle: "1 station should be able to take on a fleet of 20 dreads"
20:28:53 [*BUM*]holybum: "ame and amjd for kluth only"
20:29:18 [=R=]Crim {Fear}: "Ant, your a bloody retard, go play with a shiney object or something.."
20:29:22 [Admin]Tael: "ok I am gonna jump now, gotta go back and look at more numbers.. YEAH!"

Thanks to [*CEC*]Spider Man*FL*{Retired} for the first part of the log...

[ This Message was edited by: Bobamelius on 2006-01-24 16:46 ]
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Philky!

Joined: July 19, 2004
Posts: 90

Posted: 2006-01-23 21:28

Those developer meetings need more order.
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_x$witchBladex_ [1.480 Fanboy]
Grand Admiral

Joined: February 26, 2003
Posts: 849
From: Upstate New York

Posted: 2006-01-23 22:17

Be interesting to see how this works. Auto-leveling to hull/ship type is a good idea.

Keep at it

.

~Switch

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lightning[Voyager][ A ]
Cadet

Joined: August 04, 2004
Posts: 419
From: CANADA. QUEBEC

Posted: 2006-01-24 00:30

Sorry that i missed the dev meeting, i was at my college ( Music of the world and its history ) class, a late PM boring class...

I readed all the dev meeting log, I am glad to see some my concerns that were evoqued by Tael will now be reduce to a normal ( nonabusive state).
This includes the bombing points that are presently way to high and that some players are taking advanage of it by gaining ranks in a matter of time that some of us (like Jack told) took time to gain...

Im also glad to see that conflicts like the rescent concern of players about FS personal decisions to lock planet to stop new players from building deviced that are not needed or just that they are made in a over production of it.

I have problem figuring out how it will work but it will greatly make it easier and will avoid conflicts like we had.

Good work Tael.

Lightning[Voyager]

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Tbone
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Posts: 1756
From: Vancouver

Posted: 2006-01-24 02:36

I'm just curious about one little point...

Venus is an arid planet right now, if I'm not mistaken, not Terran. And according to the game history is was terraformed to some degree to make it livable on the surface. Just stickler for detail, I am

Toxic planets are all well and good, though. Venus isn't Terran, but its not Toxic (anymore) either

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Posted: 2006-01-24 06:15

Heres the part bob missed out on:

02:00:48 [Admin]Tael: "ok, back"

02:00:58 [=R=]Crim {Fear}: "Wee."

02:01:08 [Admin]Tael: "so this will be short since there isnt much i can say, but first I will start with the status of things..."
* EVENT: 'Developer Meeting ~ Tael' event is starting now...

02:01:38 [Admin]Tael: "Source code server is working again so I have a full sync of the source code, meaning i can implement low level code changes necessary"
* [FS]Josef puts on his giant foam finger

02:02:23 [Admin]Tael: "Resourcer is borked, i am only getting about half of the objects, so cant make changes to the ship layouts just yet. I have F trying to fix that"

02:02:46 [Admin]Tael: "So I will be tweaking all the devices in code before updating any ship layouts."

* [-GTN-]Enterprise waves his " I ¢¾ Tael " flag...

02:03:03 [Admin]Tael: "Change to the device levels are now, Ships Hull size sets the level."

* [Raven]Kit {Polaris} nods at [CS]CharAznable...
* [=R=]Crim {Fear} paints his chest teal..

02:03:17 [Admin]Tael: "This means bigger ships get bigger guns, bigger armor..."

* [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack* grins
02:03:29 [Raven]Kit {Polaris}: "Yay.."

02:03:33 [-GTN-]BackSlash *Jack*: "Basicly, how it should always of been?"

02:03:38 Antdizzle: "Quiet!"

* [=R=]Crim {Fear} @74050 sent to Friends: "Not in beta"
* Dragonslayer *S4* falls over dead
02:03:39 [*CEC*]Troy Mars *S1*: "finally no more super scouts"

02:03:47 [-GTN-]Starfist: "are we still gonna experence the power drain on the EAD"

02:03:47 Antdizzle: "No comments until after he is done!"

02:03:53 Antdizzle: "You are ruining the experience."

02:03:59 [-GTN-]Enterprise: "What Ant said."

02:04:03 [Admin]Tael: "I will be doing some extra calcs for devices like ECM, so say a Dread hull size 8 wont have level 8 senors, instead it will be base 10 - hull size"
02:04:04 Dragonslayer *S4*: ".."

02:04:09 [-GTN-]Enterprise: "Lets just keep quiet until he says what he has to say. "

02:04:11 [Admin]Tael: "so scouts will still rule there."

* Dragonslayer *S4* has a question and rasies his hand

02:04:39 [Admin]Tael: "Energy generation will be determined by the hull size too,so bigger ships have larger engines and reactors."

02:04:52 [Admin]Tael: "hold all questions just a sec"

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Posted: 2006-01-24 07:29

Quote:

20:20:27 [Admin]Tael: "i may look to lower the points for bombing as well."
20:20:32 [Admin]Tael: "that will affect everyone though"

3 points:

1: Not our fault for dev's not fixing the problem immediatly
2: A lot of ppl earned there points fair in the previous versions
3: We loose a lot already to neutroning cause the game is so damn lagy (I myself have lost around 50kpres this version bombing and have always used neutrons)

True, there r ppl who mirv, fighter bomb and faction hop to do it again just for pres..but they r using the best method to gain pres atm so we cant really blame them.

Nim

PS: I had a lot of points prior to this version. Thank you devs for making all my hard work look like nothing...

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From: The Gideon Unit

Posted: 2006-01-24 11:05

regarding this bomb stat adjustment thing, aside from wether or not any such adjustment may or may not be made, shig has sketched out a loose set of parameters whereby most of the older bombers (minus an exception or two) will remain largely unaffected, something on the order if your bomb stat is more than 50% of your total pres, you'd be looking at a stat reduction

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Aneemal
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Posts: 67

Posted: 2006-01-24 12:29

personally its too late to wipe or edit peoples bombing stats.

mines crap anyway but still the bigegst pres i have over all others

ds might loose way too many subs if this occures
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From: Bristol, England

Posted: 2006-01-24 12:31

And it's lost more because of it.

Think about that. You'll maybe lose 6-7 people, those of which have abused bombing, and shouldn't have. You've lost a hellovalot more people than 6-7 because of those people who bomb.
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Aneemal
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Posted: 2006-01-24 12:36

yeah true but im jsut not going to build that pres up if its taken away i dont bomb that much at all prolly one planet or two a day and most of its in admiral,i dont want my stats touched! period.

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Posted: 2006-01-24 12:59

Quote:

On 2006-01-24 12:36, Sano Trucido wrote:
yeah true but im jsut not going to build that pres up if its taken away i dont bomb that much at all prolly one planet or two a day and most of its in admiral,i dont want my stats touched! period.

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PALESTAR MAY OCCASIONALLY FIND IT NECESSARY TO MAKE CHANGES TO, OR RESET PORTIONS OF, THE DARKSPACE GAME SYSTEM OR CONTENT. THIS MAY INCLUDE, BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO: CHANGES IN RANK STRUCTURE, CHANGES IN SHIP OR EQUIPMENT, OR A PROFILE RESET RESULTING IN DATA LOSS.

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Besides, if you knew about the bug, you shoudn't have bombed at all. Theres another way to capture a planet, you know.

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Posts: 836
From: Your local future farm.

Posted: 2006-01-24 13:05

Thought the meeting went well. Gave me something else to read besides the bloody novel I typed last night. Did have a question; the question was answered... so I wasn't ignored in my point. Was pleased for it.

Glad to read that, eventually, I'll be able to kill a scout in something small than a dreadnought again in a timeframe that seems more logical.

Would not have a problem if bombing prestige is left unedited. I've managed to come to terms with the idea. Bombing wasn't made illegal. In my eyes, there was as much of a ban on bombing enemy planets as there was on logging out a ship in Sol and spawning it two minutes later in CD*36. The ease of bombing has annoyed me... but, as long as the power of bombs falls, I'm completely fine. I don't need more than one build. I don't need construction prestige raised. I don't... need fighter lag reduced. I just... would like the power of bombs to fall, and I'm content.

And... maybe the ability to... not fall victim to the jump bug...

I put my trust in Tael because I still see it fit to give my trust. I know what's going on, now. Maybe this is just a bilking, extortion-like operation to get more money out of people without them knowing it? *shrugs*

Just got to follow through, kids. Follow through.

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Posted: 2006-01-24 13:06

Imao leave players pres only if they are bombing whore o well it's against the RoC to tell someone what to fly or use in ds.
They are here to have fun in their own way not for someone else.
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Smartin
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Posts: 1107
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Posted: 2006-01-24 13:15

To be honest I jsut want to see something done so this can be over with. I think everyone will be much happier when they dont have to talk about it on a daily basis. I would go either way, I talked to them about reducing my stats at one point and they said no.

Lets be done with it and get the new patch out and working.

-Smartin-
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