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Kanman
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Pitch Black
Joined: August 26, 2005
Posts: 1017
From: Virginia, United States
|  Posted: 2007-04-03 10:32
EDIT: Latest Version of Weather Sand from Most Recent Post: Weather Sand
Ok. I need you guys/girls to help me out with this one. I have this .... prototype for a new game, and it looks pretty and is even a bit interesting to play with, but it is missing something. I just can't seem to put my finger on what this game COULD be made into. I can feel it has potential, but just cant work out what it is.
Play around with it for a couple of minutes and then tell me what you think I should do to turn this into something more complex. THAT's what I needs. Complexity, but what can I add to make it more complex? Help me out if you plz. 
Controls:
This one is simple. D resets to start conditions. A changes 'brush type'.
Initial brush is simple. it adds heat where you click.
Pressing A once brings you to the second brush, which I call Stars. It marks where you click to be a permanent hot spot, constantly diffusing heat outward forever.
Pressing A once again brings you to the final brush, which I call Black Holes. It marks where you click to be a permanent cold spot, constantly sucking in heat from around it forever.
Now, There are 2 more phenomenon I have to describe. There is invisible heat beyond the edge of the blue, which has an extremely low value, and appeared as only 'TV snow', which showed to be annoying. I have it not being shown anymore, but is still there. The area is a CLOSED system. No heat goes away on its own. A map with just 1 star point and no black holes will EVENTUALLY becomes entirely hot.
The second part is LIFE (or rather, my first attempt at it). If a point remains within a certain bracket of temperature for long enough, the point turns green, showing life has started there. If that point remains within its temperature bracket for a bit longer, the life evolves to become more durable. The point turns purple to signify this. It now can survive in slightly hotter temperatures than green, but still dies at the same point of cold as green. If it survives a bit longer, it will turn Teal, signifying a long lasting lifeform. This Teal life can survive even hotter temperatures than purple, but still dies at the same level of cold as purple and green.
Ok. Try it out and tell me what to add to make it more fun.
Link To Thermal Game v1.1
Link To Thermal Game v1.2
Cool Down Brush Added after the Black Hole brush.
Link To Thermal Game v1.3
Behavior of life altered. Teal now expands purple where it can. Lesser life can survive colder temperatures than higher life, so teal may be wiped out to be replaced by purple and the same goes for purple to green. This causes interesting wripple-wave effects when a new Black Hole is introduced to a populated area.
Screenies: (Taken by [-=WKA=-]Peter Wiggin)
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Admiral Alucard (2IC)
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From: St. Helens, England
| Posted: 2007-04-03 10:46
I like it. You could turn it into a sorta ant farm kinda thing...heat burns them and cold either freezes them or kills them. I dunno..its just an idear
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Enterprise
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Joined: May 19, 2002
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From: Hawthorne, Nevada
| Posted: 2007-04-03 14:26
Very interesting game but I share your view... its missing something. Its definately unique, and I like it its just... it lacks something.
-Ent
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Peter Wiggin
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Joined: November 10, 2005
Posts: 636
| Posted: 2007-04-03 14:33
hehe, if i had the program to record normal windows and things(like fraps, but not for games) I would record my little adventures..
I think of the red middle as a galaxy then the planets around it inhabited lol..
I make a few, watch em grow.. then POP.. a black hole.. hehe its like an ant farm with a magnifying glass.
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Kanman
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Joined: August 26, 2005
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From: Virginia, United States
| Posted: 2007-04-03 15:22
I have added v1.3. check it out if you are interested.
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Peter Wiggin
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| Posted: 2007-04-03 15:49
v 1.3 screenshots:
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Enterprise
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From: Hawthorne, Nevada
| Posted: 2007-04-03 16:24
I would personally like a galaxy sort of simulator that was sort of mentioned in passing.
Pretty much making a star, it lives, grows, dies and explodes (or becomes a black hole), you could make the remenant of an explosion create a thermal nebula that forms planets, stars, and so on, and life can grow and adapt on those planets.
Just a fun little idea to turn over though; what you have now is definately amusing as it is.
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Peter Wiggin
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| Posted: 2007-04-03 16:27
I like ent's idea
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Kanman
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Joined: August 26, 2005
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From: Virginia, United States
| Posted: 2007-04-04 12:24
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On 2007-04-03 16:24, Enterprise wrote:
I would personally like a galaxy sort of simulator that was sort of mentioned in passing.
Pretty much making a star, it lives, grows, dies and explodes (or becomes a black hole), you could make the remenant of an explosion create a thermal nebula that forms planets, stars, and so on, and life can grow and adapt on those planets.
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That is my ultimate goal, and each of my games is a step in learning how to do that. My first game (the Particle Game), was me learning how to program the idea of gravity and acceleration. The second game (the Weather Sand game) was my attempt to learn particle impact detection. The third game (Thermal) is me trying to figure out heat diffusion and energy radiation.
In a few years, I may have compiled enough understanding to make a galaxy simlulator, but I am a long way off from that yet. I am still having trouble merging my three games into a single game that works properly. I am currently working on combining Thermal with Weather Sand to make it so rain freezes and snow melts, etc. It will include a Thermal Camera you can switch to that looks a bit like an infrared view from TV. I tried it yesterday but lost track of what was going on in the code and had to scrap it. I will take what I learned yesterday and try again today in a slightly more organized manner.
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BackSlash
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Joined: March 23, 2003
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From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2007-04-04 13:38
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On 2007-04-04 12:24, Kanman *FC2* wrote:
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On 2007-04-03 16:24, Enterprise wrote:
I would personally like a galaxy sort of simulator that was sort of mentioned in passing.
Pretty much making a star, it lives, grows, dies and explodes (or becomes a black hole), you could make the remenant of an explosion create a thermal nebula that forms planets, stars, and so on, and life can grow and adapt on those planets.
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That is my ultimate goal, and each of my games is a step in learning how to do that. My first game (the Particle Game), was me learning how to program the idea of gravity and acceleration. The second game (the Weather Sand game) was my attempt to learn particle impact detection. The third game (Thermal) is me trying to figure out heat diffusion and energy radiation.
In a few years, I may have compiled enough understanding to make a galaxy simlulator, but I am a long way off from that yet. I am still having trouble merging my three games into a single game that works properly. I am currently working on combining Thermal with Weather Sand to make it so rain freezes and snow melts, etc. It will include a Thermal Camera you can switch to that looks a bit like an infrared view from TV. I tried it yesterday but lost track of what was going on in the code and had to scrap it. I will take what I learned yesterday and try again today in a slightly more organized manner.
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Use modules.
IE, for one part, just hold the code in a module, and call it each time.
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Enterprise
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Joined: May 19, 2002
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From: Hawthorne, Nevada
| Posted: 2007-04-04 14:09
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On 2007-04-04 12:24, Kanman *FC2* wrote:
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On 2007-04-03 16:24, Enterprise wrote:
I would personally like a galaxy sort of simulator that was sort of mentioned in passing.
Pretty much making a star, it lives, grows, dies and explodes (or becomes a black hole), you could make the remenant of an explosion create a thermal nebula that forms planets, stars, and so on, and life can grow and adapt on those planets.
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That is my ultimate goal, and each of my games is a step in learning how to do that. My first game (the Particle Game), was me learning how to program the idea of gravity and acceleration. The second game (the Weather Sand game) was my attempt to learn particle impact detection. The third game (Thermal) is me trying to figure out heat diffusion and energy radiation.
In a few years, I may have compiled enough understanding to make a galaxy simlulator, but I am a long way off from that yet. I am still having trouble merging my three games into a single game that works properly. I am currently working on combining Thermal with Weather Sand to make it so rain freezes and snow melts, etc. It will include a Thermal Camera you can switch to that looks a bit like an infrared view from TV. I tried it yesterday but lost track of what was going on in the code and had to scrap it. I will take what I learned yesterday and try again today in a slightly more organized manner.
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If you manage to do it, and I wish you the best of luck in doing it, it would be great! 
Honestly, the uniqueness of the past two games have really sparked my interest. Uniqueness in games often attracts me to them.
For Thermal though, it would be of great help if like in Weather Sand, you had various color coded tabs which you could use to switch between different brushes.
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Lark of Serenity
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Joined: June 02, 2002
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| Posted: 2007-04-04 15:11
honestly, if you look at something like fl0w, youve probably got enough of a game by comparison to get yourself on playstation or something.
what would be interesting tho is if when u mixed the particle and thermal aspect, is if objects impacting eachother made heat... i could see a lot of odd little games coming from that, like having to draw something using heat spots.
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Spiritlift
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Joined: January 12, 2003
Posts: 704
From: Australia, Hell
| Posted: 2007-04-04 16:14
think maybe missing something to start the game with
maybe start with an image, that you have to copy or finish in order to complete a round, or
kinda looks to me like a viral tab , something youd see at the doctors or in a lab, maybe you could destroy the bad bacteria with good bacteria , so u start with a pic that looks like a bad bacteria n u have to kill it n make it look like a healthy bacteria or sumin.... i replaced my kluth embryo with uggy anthrax!
anywayz juz my thoughts, loox cool , is there a online multiplayer thermal fight planned? ill take yaz all on! xD
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Kanman
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Joined: August 26, 2005
Posts: 1017
From: Virginia, United States
| Posted: 2007-04-04 18:52
I have (nearly) successfully combined Thermal into Weather Sand. It is still buggy (rain keeps freezing on me and the atmospheric temperature keeps resetting itself which is flooding the map with heat or cold at too high a speed.
However. Overall, it is operating properly. I am going to choose new (better) colors for the Thermal view so we can see it in more 'infrared-like' tones.
Here are a couple of teaser pics:
Same game, thru Thermal veiw:
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Kanman
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From: Virginia, United States
| Posted: 2007-04-04 19:50
ok. I am gonna release a beta of the new one. I have fixed a couple of my bugs, but still have a couple more to go. For best results, play in the middle of the game, not along the ground. changing weather (rain, snow, none) instantly changes the atmopheric temperature (more gradual version to come).
BUTTONS:
ACID RAIN REMOVED. In its place you find a RED button. That turns ON thermal view. To the right is a BLUE button. that turns OFF thermal view.
My favorite thing is to make a beam of wall. heat it from underneath until it is nice and hot. then go to snow and watch the snow melt when it hits (or gets near to hitting) the wall.
Also, try letting it rain on acid. the fire looks good in thermal view.
Thermal Weather v1.1
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