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Philky!
Joined: July 19, 2004
Posts: 90
|  Posted: 2005-11-30 19:00
The world would be a better place with programmers, so here is a link to download FREE Visual Studio IDEs.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/
I'll give you a quick rundown of the packages.
Visual Basic - good for casual programming
Visual J# - I have no idea who would use this, but it is there if you want it.
Visual C++ - The ultimate power, but it could be confusing for a newbie
Visual Web Developer - use this if you want to make ASP.NET applications(web applications)
Visual C# - My personal favorite, the future of programming. I would recommend you download this. It also has some nice tutorials.
You should be able to find a home in one of these languages if you are interested in programming. You get the most powerful IDEs ever for FREE!!!! Download now. 
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Doran
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Galactic Navy
Joined: March 29, 2003
Posts: 4032
From: The Gideon Unit
| Posted: 2005-11-30 19:07
im taking a visual basic class...
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Crim
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Sundered Weimeriners
Joined: March 16, 2003
Posts: 1336
| Posted: 2005-11-30 19:30
Since C++ is what we're using, I'll learn it..
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Bandit
Cadet
Joined: May 25, 2004
Posts: 165
From: Under a rock
| Posted: 2005-11-30 19:34
OMG!!!! He said PROGRAMMER!!!
Quick, Lock it!!! Block it!!! Delete it!!!
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Fattierob
Vice Admiral
Joined: April 25, 2003
Posts: 4059
| Posted: 2005-11-30 19:36
and no java?!
I need to learn another programming language.
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Philky!
Joined: July 19, 2004
Posts: 90
| Posted: 2005-11-30 19:42
The C# syntax is very similar to Java. Plus it has the backing of the Almighty Microsoft. You may think they don't do well on their other products, but their programming products are top-notch. I'm glad to hear you guys are working on learning programming.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vb/learning/ Visual Basic Tutorials
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/learning/ Web Developer Tutorials(ASP.NET) you can run the applications locally, but if you want to put them on a web server, you'll need a Windows server.
http://www.geocities.com/sstutor/contents.htm C++ Tutorials/Reference
http://www.csharp-station.com/Tutorial.aspx
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/visualCSharp/learning/ C# Tutorials The second link is highly recommended for C# tutorials.
Remember, go with C# if you are unsure about the language you want to learn.
[small][ This Message was edited by: Antdizzle on 2005-11-30 19:43 ][/small]
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BackSlash
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Joined: March 23, 2003
Posts: 11183
From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2005-11-30 19:58
Visual Basic is a great starter program, very easy to use and make simple programs...
Java and C++ are at most, object orientated and can be tweaked for whatever your neads (most games created nowerdays are written in C++ with some other bits of Python and what not (lua aswell)). If I were to suggest starting... Start with Visual Basic (get some online tutorials), and then get onto Java, which has a rather large starting curve. Once that's all done, start having a go at Visual C++, but I warn you, it's not for the light hearted, it's very, very different to Visual Basic.
Also, try learning some ASM, since you might want to talk directly to the hardware and not let windows do it for you (ASM = Assembler). Word of warning though... ASM is NOT easy.
[ This Message was edited by: BackSlash *Jack* on 2005-11-30 20:00 ]
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Drow
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Joined: June 06, 2003
Posts: 449
From: USA, WI
| Posted: 2005-11-30 20:24
Heh, I was gana mention assembler Jack.. The real programmer uses assembler And it makes for such smaller programs.
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Joined: March 23, 2003
Posts: 11183
From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2005-11-30 20:43
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Heh, I was gana mention assembler Jack.. The real programmer uses assembler And it makes for such smaller programs.
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But it's a helluva hard program to use...
In uni, we've had 2 lessons on it, and they're telling us to write a file transfer program :/... With encryption support... 100% in assembler... In 15 days...
HAHAHAHAHA
I'm so gonna fail.
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Borgie
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Joined: August 15, 2005
Posts: 2256
From: close by
| Posted: 2005-11-30 21:34
blah.. can't we all just get in to mv and kill each other
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Philky!
Joined: July 19, 2004
Posts: 90
| Posted: 2005-12-01 00:28
If you guys don't want to download the IDEs, then at least get the .NET framework runtimes. You need these to run applications created for .NET. Here are the links.
http://www.antdizzle.com/dotnetfx_1.1.exe - .NET framework 1.1
http://www.antdizzle.com/dotnet_1.1SP1.exe - .NET framework 1.1 SP 1
http://www.antdizzle.com/dotnetfx_2.0.exe - .NET framework 2.0
I suggest you download all three in the order I gave you. THey shouldn't mess up your computer, that is if you didn't already mess up your computer. So help support the .NET programmers by downloading them.
[ This Message was edited by: Antdizzle on 2005-12-01 19:01 ]
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Ants
Chief Marshal
Joined: February 11, 2005
Posts: 315
From: Canada
| Posted: 2005-12-01 00:41
Thanks alot Antdizzle 
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Axalon
Vice Admiral
Joined: June 15, 2003
Posts: 442
From: East Windsor, NJ, USA
| Posted: 2005-12-01 06:03
ASM...*shudders*
That can make young children cry, with is omnipresent "mov eax,ah", just teasing you, making you think it means something, but you can't figure something out just by looking at it.
I actually hear that its only x86 ASM that's a bitch. PPC ASM is apparently easier...
But whatever, those low-level programming languages are for purists and masochists. Good ol' C++ for me...
...and VB if I need to finish something fast (or...involving the Windows API)...
But yes, more programmers == good.
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Veronw
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Joined: December 13, 2004
Posts: 554
| Posted: 2005-12-01 14:31
now what types of programs can this create? and would this dpend on the type of machine u use and the memory available to it? (as curious if i would be able to create a basic game like Gravity Well, for those of u who like the older games)....go 99 action pack arcade games!!!!! came free with comp upgrade lol....
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Drafell
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Mythica
Joined: May 30, 2003
Posts: 2449
From: United Kingdom
| Posted: 2005-12-01 14:36
I make half finished games like DS Galaxy...
Strangely reminiscent of another game that we all play....
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