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Faustus
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|  Posted: 2002-05-30 08:33
I've been thinking lately about increasing the FTL speeds of all jumpdrives by a factor of 4, this would make their range 4 times their current range of 300,000 gu and reduce jump times by 1/4.
Additionally, I'd like to make the mass factor into the fuel consumption, so smaller ships use less fuel, thus can jump much further.
What do you guys think of this?
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Wolver{RIP R33}
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| Posted: 2002-05-30 08:54
I like the ship mass idea. I agree that smaller ships should be able to jump faster and farther than large ships. Although, with smaller ships you have smaller gas tanks, so maybe that should be taken into account also.
I also agree with increasing the range and speed of jumpdrives in general, for one main reason...the Sol system. How nice it would be to jump to Callisto in half the time! 
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| Posted: 2002-05-30 08:58
*applauds faustus*
But fix the map editor!
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Samweis*
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| Posted: 2002-05-30 09:06
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I've been thinking lately about increasing the FTL speeds of all jumpdrives by a factor of 4, this would make their range 4 times their current range of 300,000 gu and reduce jump times by 1/4.
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I dont think the times should be reduced. Maybe create new drives but let the existing drives.
The idea with mass effecting the jump drive is nice 
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| Posted: 2002-05-30 09:32
I agree with Samweis, The speeds are acceptable, it gives you that much more insentive to get K'luth tech for the AM Jump drive, each faction has an improved engine, why not make an improved Jump drive for ICC and UGTO too?
The fuel consumption is an exellent idea though.
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Hitman23
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| Posted: 2002-05-30 09:40
I like the idea Faustus.
Maybe if the jumps are quicker people might come to the MV.
Anything to get them into the MV.
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Cuisinart
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| Posted: 2002-05-30 09:42
I like both ideas, very much in fact.
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Chromix
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| Posted: 2002-05-30 11:16
Yep.. 4 minute jumps across large systems got a bit boring...
But increasing speed by x4 will just aid those dread-jump-onto-enemy-ship guys...
would be nice to either have an acceleration phase so you don´t get the high speed instantly, or a "optimal jumpdrive load calculation phase" or something that starts after you´re aligned... 3 secs for a scout, 6 for frigate, 10 destroyer, 15 cruiser, 20 dread, 30 station....
So ppl might start flying the 500 gu to a target instead of jumping right on top of it... (at least the big ships)
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| Posted: 2002-05-30 12:26
Hehe like in any good Sci-fi where computer need calculate Jump path and End coordinates ...
Also jump speed can be progressive ... os maximal speed is e.g. reached after 5000gu or in E-jump etc.
also ability control jump speed (to slower) can increase maximal distance, slower u fly, large distance u can reach
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| Posted: 2002-05-30 13:52
Faustus, why not just add Warp Engines and remove Jump Gates all togethere?
Yes Granted it would take probly alot more programing than the mission system.
just leave Hiden Worm Holes, threw out systems.
we can use the standard engines to travel threw the systems and warp drives to jump to other systems.
is this possable?
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Gideon
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| Posted: 2002-05-30 13:55
I like the idea of having longer ranged jump capabilities.
How about if jump drive funtion as they do now for speed, untill you "leave a system". When you get a certain distance past the outer orbit of the planets in a system, your jump speeds increase dramatically.
You could call it a safety feature when in a system, or you could say it has to do with the gravity well of the star. Or both.
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| Posted: 2002-05-30 15:16
Torq & Gid:
That makes it nearly impossible to have choke points. That's why many great military sci-fi stories have such chokepoints...jumpgates, naturally occurring/artificial wormholes, etc. If you don't have a chokepoint...how in the world are you going to build up defenses??
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| Posted: 2002-05-30 15:44
I like the idea too.
How about some fixes for MV so i can choose a none combat role to play again too ?
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Gideon
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| Posted: 2002-05-30 15:54
Choke points still exist in DarkSpace, even with free travel in between systems.
If I can sight two famous sci-fi generas that follow the same formula: Star Wars and Star Trek.
It goes somthing like this:
You can only travel so far with your fuel before refilling. Also, resources have to come from somewhere. Because of these factors, starsystems that contain planets are the most important things to your government. Planet layout and system location become natural paths to how fleets move. Thusly, you can use a system as a choke point against your enemies.
Because movement is not limited by some artificial factor, you must have a fleet that is capable of high speed movement, and that is distrubuted in a manor that allows it to respond to incursions into your territory. When the enemy invades, the ships in the immediate area slow the enemy down and fight a delaying action until a combat fleet arives to drive off the invaders.
By the way, the reason that a web-like grid of planets exists in games, with wormholes and like chokepoints, is because the AI the game is designed to use cannot handle the processes nessesary for a dynamic game front. Since DarkSpace uses Human Intellegence rather than Artificial Intellegence, the ability for a game with dynamic tactical situations exists.
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| Posted: 2002-05-30 16:34
hmm, i say i dont mind the long travel times. it adds to the realism. but im kewl with faster drives that we can buy. The idea about the gravity well is interresting too. Slow near planets, Fast in outer space. This could be added along with new drives that can go faster on the overall situation. I think adding those 2 would be kewl.
But i wouldnt like having 4 times faster drives, no defenatly not. Goes toward a more quake type (just my opinion, dont wanna start a flame war here). 4 times is too much, but the ability to buy faster jump drives is ok tho, start with the basic and buy new drives that can go maybe as fast or close to amj.
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