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Zodira
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Joined: April 09, 2006
Posts: 30
From: Flying High
|  Posted: 2010-04-14 19:18
In the recent update i noticed a major graphics problem that just now showed up.
All drivers are up to date and its the client.
I also tried this on 2 computers.
The effect on both computers was were gas planets wouldent show in the little preview window at the bottom right when selected.
On our laptop ships wouldent show at all on the bottom view.
Ships still show fine in game and in ship selection its just in this preview of other ships.
On my main computer ships would show but there model shape is vibrating and allmost looking like its boiling. the model is changing rapidly when ever the ship itself or my ship is moving.
When both are still the effect dosent happen but the models look wrong.
The same effect happends to planets with an atmosphere.
This seems like a major problem and it only started with the recent update.
Ships when looked at with the camera (C) look just normal its only stuff in the preview window with this model shearing and boiling effect going on.
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Tael
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Joined: July 03, 2002
Posts: 3697
From: San Francisco Bay Area
| Posted: 2010-04-14 19:31
This was caused by a recent change in the Particle graphics of the game engine. We streamlined the system which improved their look while lessening their load on the system.
Ironically the old system had an inversion so that particles emitted backwards and to counter that people created the effects with a flip in it. The new system works as intended, we just havent finished going through all of the ships and spinning the thrust animation. Thus what you are seeing is particles from the thrust coming through the ship model.
Correction: The above issue I refered explains why we see random particles coming through the models.
The issue with zoom in and out is being hot fixed today.
[ This Message was edited by: Tael on 2010-04-14 19:39 ]
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Zodira
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Posts: 30
From: Flying High
| Posted: 2010-04-14 19:52
It dosent look like its caused by paritcles. if so it dosent explain why I cant see gas planets in the preview window and also why planets with atmosphere also do this.
I have taken a string of screenshots 1 after the other. about 8 and put them into a zip folder for download.
http://jp-entertainment.zoomshare.com/files/Shearing_Screenshots.zip
You will notice the the ships form is changing during its movement however while looking at my own ship the form of my ship is fine. also when a ship is still and all is still even my own ship there still shows some model deformation which shouldent be happening which my understanding is that particles only happen during gun fire or movmement.
problem is only in preview window wether moving or not.
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Tael
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From: San Francisco Bay Area
| Posted: 2010-04-14 19:59
Its been confirmed by Faustus already and he is working on the hot fix right now. Its tied to the Particle system.
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G.Adm. Kirk
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Joined: May 13, 2005
Posts: 91
From: Baton Rouge, LA
| Posted: 2010-04-14 23:27
Also, whenever there is a wormhole in the area, the lens flare is auto snapped to the center of the screen.
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MrSparkle
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Joined: August 13, 2001
Posts: 1912
From: mrsparkle
| Posted: 2010-04-15 00:01
Ahh I bet that explains the awful lens flare effect I was getting. There were a lot of wormholes used.
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8982/00000064.jpg
They were like attached to my ship except for certain camera angles, so they weren't like some lighting effect but were like some strange and obscuring attachment.
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Zodira
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Joined: April 09, 2006
Posts: 30
From: Flying High
| Posted: 2010-04-15 00:19
Noticed a new update just came out but it didnt fix the current problem. I did however notice the ship model wasent changing shape like i thought.
It looked more like the textures were slightly transparent making textures on the model behind a texture showing thorugh which made the flickering effect going on.
As i noticed it was like seeing through the ship.
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Izzy
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Interstellar Cultural Confederation United
Joined: March 15, 2006
Posts: 41
From: USA
| Posted: 2010-04-15 07:52
yes with the glare......... annoying.
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Zodira
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Joined: April 09, 2006
Posts: 30
From: Flying High
| Posted: 2010-04-16 19:44
I noticed there was a new update. It didnt fix the problem with the flickering objects in game.
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Zero28
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Joined: August 25, 2006
Posts: 591
| Posted: 2010-04-16 19:58
i see sometimes pretty pink triangle on the Kluth Krills sometimes XD
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Zodira
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Joined: April 09, 2006
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From: Flying High
| Posted: 2010-04-17 20:16
Just did a new test to see exactly whats going on.
the textures are facing wrong. insted of the textures facing outwards they are facing inwards. meening I am seeing inside the ship.
The laptop sees the inside of the ship this way. while my main computer flickers a lot cus its trying to view them both outside and inside.
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Sopwith Camel
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Joined: March 07, 2002
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From: Toronto
| Posted: 2010-04-17 20:17
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On 2010-04-16 19:58, Zero28 wrote:
i see sometimes pretty pink triangle on the Kluth Krills sometimes XD
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Yes I saw that when one SDed. I thought that was a cheesy 1960s TV effect!
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UnknownWarrior
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Joined: July 18, 2002
Posts: 724
From: North Carolina, USA
| Posted: 2010-04-17 20:25
Ive noticed that when ships hit a certain point in time and start blowing smoke out their rears a pink triangle appears for a few seconds and fades as this effect starts taking place
I would also like to point out that in the lower right where the targetted ship appears at the model on there is all messed up. To where you see half the ship and the other half is like the textures were tossed inside out.
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Kenny_Naboo
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Joined: January 11, 2010
Posts: 3823
From: LobsterTown
| Posted: 2010-04-17 23:49
Yeah. I get those pink triangles too.
I'd actuallyhought that after a little while. My Little Pony might actually jump out the ass end of my ship and spawn a few Care Bears.....
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Zodira
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Joined: April 09, 2006
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From: Flying High
| Posted: 2010-04-24 16:08
I still got the problem.
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