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Test_Sieges
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Joined: October 30, 2006
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|  Posted: 2006-10-31 09:13
I have a quick question regarding ship movement: can you go up and down? I can steer left and right, but do not see any controls for up/down.
Thanks
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icansee
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Joined: August 02, 2006
Posts: 327
| Posted: 2006-10-31 09:18
this is 3d you cant go up and down not 4d
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GothThug {C?}
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| Posted: 2006-10-31 09:20
wrong, its 2D on a 3D environment not 4D 
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Joined: March 23, 2003
Posts: 11183
From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2006-10-31 09:21
You mean it's a 3D enviroment, but it's played on a 2D plane?
Yeah...
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Doran
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From: The Gideon Unit
| Posted: 2006-10-31 09:36
better answer is no, you can not move up or down. fighters are free to, missiles are kept near the plane of movement though have have some ability to change their height. asteroids have no trouble going below the plane. but players are restricted to horizontal movement. 2 exceptions to that though, the first being ship-ship "collisions". one ship will move below or above the other, then return to its orginal height and continue along its course. the second being "stacks" of ships, namely stations, trying to put several stations in the same place will result in one/more of them being moved below the plane. its quite rare these days.
good way to think of it as the game space being a body of water and all the ships are really bouyant. while it is technically possible to get a ship above or below the water, its not going to stay there very long.
some relativly older players will remember a planet called Umbrella 4 (or simply U4), which was (due to a map quirk) quite a bit above the plane, so much so that most ships could simply fly under it, and orbiting this planet would bring the ship up to the planet's level.
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YIIMM
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From: Barcino, Hispania Tarraconensis
| Posted: 2006-10-31 10:02
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On 2006-10-31 09:18, Hms.Blueprint wrote:
this is 3d you cant go up and down not 4d
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Length, width, depth and...?
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Bash
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| Posted: 2006-10-31 11:24
i remember U4 nasty system.
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Joined: March 23, 2003
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From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2006-10-31 12:29
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On 2006-10-31 09:36, Necrotic Doran wrote:
some relativly older players will remember a planet called Umbrella 4 (or simply U4), which was (due to a map quirk) quite a bit above the plane, so much so that most ships could simply fly under it, and orbiting this planet would bring the ship up to the planet's level.
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Nicea and it's quirks..
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Kanman
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Joined: August 26, 2005
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From: Virginia, United States
| Posted: 2006-10-31 13:03
time. for ships it is a 3D game, left-right, forward-back, and time (unidirectional until you have desync, in which case you uncontrollably jerk back in time a few minutes).
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Fattierob
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| Posted: 2006-10-31 13:10
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On 2006-10-31 09:18, Hms.Blueprint wrote:
this is 3d you cant go up and down not 4d
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Length, width, depth and...?
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time
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Flavor
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Little Pet Slinki
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Joined: April 16, 2006
Posts: 836
From: United Kingdom, South West.
| Posted: 2006-10-31 13:42
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Length, width, depth and...?
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Time...
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Inanimate Carbon Rod
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| Posted: 2006-10-31 14:03
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On 2006-10-31 10:02, YIIMM wrote:
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this is 3d you cant go up and down not 4d
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Yay, another quote of this!
Time or:
[RandomTheory]
Length(Length, width, depth) = 4d .. XYZ on another X
Length, width (Length, width, depth) = 5d .. XYZ on another XY
Length, width, depth (Length, width, depth) = 6d .. XYZ on another XYZ
think of 6d like a rubix cube, there is a 3D in another 3D, so each unit IS a 3D.
And then time comes last after that, since its one of the final demensions, but, if XYZ can be on another XYZ, than that XYZ should be able to be on an endless connection of infinite XYZs, so then time would be an infinite dimention!
[/RandomTheory]
ooOOooOooOO,
[ This Message was edited by: ~ Juicy on 2006-10-31 14:16 ]
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Coeus
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Joined: March 22, 2006
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From: Philly
| Posted: 2006-10-31 16:39
Heh... U4...
I remember when I found out - quite by accident on a bombing run - that its off plane... I remember jumping there  That was fun.
DS comes with its own built in time machine... though its more of a time-loop-GroundhogDay machine.
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Reeves-81
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Joined: January 24, 2006
Posts: 141
From: Canada
| Posted: 2006-10-31 21:01
[/quote]
[RandomTheory]
Length(Length, width, depth) = 4d .. XYZ on another X
Length, width (Length, width, depth) = 5d .. XYZ on another XY
Length, width, depth (Length, width, depth) = 6d .. XYZ on another XYZ
think of 6d like a rubix cube, there is a 3D in another 3D, so each unit IS a 3D.
And then time comes last after that, since its one of the final demensions, but, if XYZ can be on another XYZ, than that XYZ should be able to be on an endless connection of infinite XYZs, so then time would be an infinite dimention!
[/RandomTheory]
ooOOooOooOO,
[ This Message was edited by: ~ Juicy on 2006-10-31 14:16 ]
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Wow thats incredibly WRONG, go read up on your quantum physics, and general relativity, You seem to be confusing sides or facets with dimensions. 4d= 4th dimension= Time "as in quantum.". ok now
your XYZ's?? are confusing are you trying to relay that there are 6 points in space time? as for the question of time being a constant, we already know that its not. I hope that helps you a bit.
[ This Message was edited by: XanaX on 2006-10-31 21:21 ]
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Inanimate Carbon Rod
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| Posted: 2006-10-31 21:05
yea lol, was some random blurbering, thus why the fake [RandomTheory] tags are there after time. Didn't expect that kind of response to it however, but atleast that answers YIIMMs question for the lasttime (hopefully) now
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