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Mylith
Grand Admiral
Faster than Light
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From: Hivarin, CD+36*15693
|  Posted: 2012-07-26 19:36
I had some ideas for the layout of the new Command Cruisers.
I'm pretty sure that the devs will hate them, but I decided to post them anyways.
M-241A Command Cruiser
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The Command Cruiser was developed in response to a request by several ICC admirals for a cruiser command ship.
It is a very versatile ship, being able to support the fleet with its weapons, build platforms, and do minor resupply work at the same time.
x3 IE Drive(AFT)
x1 Aura(FORE)
x1 Ion Cannon(FORE,LEFT,RIGHT)
x2 Railgun(FORE,LEFT,RIGHT,AFT)
x1 Build Drone (LEFT,RIGHT,AFT,FORE)
x1 Supply Drone(RIGHT,LEFT,AFT,FORE)
x2 Auxiliary Fusion Reactor
x1 Hyper Mass Accelerator
x2 Active Shields(FORE)
x2 Active Shields(LEFT)
x2 Active Shields(RIGHT)
x2 Active Shields(AFT)
x1 Mining Beam(FORE,AFT)
x3 Pulse Beam(FORE,AFT,LEFT,RIGHT)
ST-32 Support Cruiser
The ST-32 was conceived by its designers as a support ship that could do more than a Supply Ship but was smaller than the UGTO's famous Support Stations. As a versatile ship that is useful in many situations, it has grown very popular with the lower ranking UGTO admirals.
Rank: 2nd Rear Admiral
Badges: Silver Star
x3 IE Drive(AFT)
x1 Aura(FORE)
x2 Particle Cannon(FORE,LEFT,RIGHT,AFT)
x3 A-34(FORE)
x1 Build Drone (LEFT,RIGHT,AFT,FORE)
x1 Supply Drone(FORE,LEFT,RIGHT,AFT)
x2 Auxiliary Fusion Reactor
x1 Hyper Mass Accelerator
x2 Standard Armor(FORE)
x2 Standard Armor(LEFT)
x2 Standard Armor(RIGHT)
x2 Standard Armor(AFT)
x1 Mining Beam(FORE,AFT)
x2 Chemical Laser(FORE,AFT,LEFT,RIGHT)
x2 Chemical Laser(FORE,LEFT,RIGHT)
Piercer
The Piercer is very new among the K'luth Armada. It was designed as a more versatile and durable replacement for the Worker line, however has not seen much action as of yet.
Rank: 2nd Rear Admiral
Badges: Silver Star, Gold Combat
x3 PSI Drive(AFT)
x1 Aura(FORE)
x6 Anti-Matter Torpedo(FORE,LEFT,RIGHT)
x1 Build Drone (FORE,LEFT,RIGHT,AFT)
x1 Supply Drone(FORE,LEFT,RIGHT,AFT)
x2 Auxiliary Fusion Reactor
x1 Hyper Mass Accelerator
x2 Organic Armor(FORE)
x2 Organic Armor(LEFT)
x2 Organic Armor(RIGHT)
x2 Organic Armor(AFT)
x1 Mining Beam(FORE,AFT)
x2 Disruptor (FORE,AFT,LEFT,RIGHT)
x2 Disruptor(FORE,LEFT,RIGHT)
x1 Cloaking Device(FORE)
[ This Message was edited by: Persistance *CO* on 2012-07-27 07:53 ]
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GunsOfHonor
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Joined: July 31, 2011
Posts: 191
| Posted: 2012-07-26 20:10
The ICC Command Cruiser should get 3 or 4 mines slots
I really want a good mining ship for ICC as it has some useful tactics that could help ICC
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Alex0874
Admiral
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Joined: November 13, 2010
Posts: 10
| Posted: 2012-07-26 20:12
I'm curious about the icc command cruiser are you saying that it would have be more like the border cruiser in the fact that it has 2 sets of shield generators and no armor also maybe switch the ion cannon to 2 sets of heavy rail guns with the same mounts for light anti ship work
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Mylith
Grand Admiral
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Joined: July 19, 2011
Posts: 507
From: Hivarin, CD+36*15693
| Posted: 2012-07-26 21:05
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On 2012-07-26 20:10, Infinity *CO* wrote:
The ICC Command Cruiser should get 3 or 4 mines slots
I really want a good mining ship for ICC as it has some useful tactics that could help ICC
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Mines aren't really really useful at the moment. I thought a light armament would be more useful.
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On 2012-07-26 20:12, Alex0874 wrote:
I'm curious about the icc command cruiser are you saying that it would have be more like the border cruiser in the fact that it has 2 sets of shield generators and no armor also maybe switch the ion cannon to 2 sets of heavy rail guns with the same mounts for light anti ship work
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Correct, it's like a BC.
The IC works for anti-ship as well, and maybe even better in some situations.
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GunsOfHonor
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Joined: July 31, 2011
Posts: 191
| Posted: 2012-07-26 21:10
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On 2012-07-26 21:05, Persistance *CO* wrote:
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On 2012-07-26 20:10, Infinity *CO* wrote:
The ICC Command Cruiser should get 3 or 4 mines slots
I really want a good mining ship for ICC as it has some useful tactics that could help ICC
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Mines aren't really really useful at the moment. I thought a light armament would be more useful.
I'm very well aware of that..... BUT for some reason i like mines there such a fun trol ship to use dont ask me why but i want a Mining ship in Cruiser form or dred form. why I have no clue i just like mines for some reason
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Brutality
Marshal
Joined: May 25, 2009
Posts: 659
From: Alaska, USA
| Posted: 2012-07-27 00:24
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On 2012-07-26 21:10, Infinity *CO* wrote:
I'm very well aware of that..... BUT for some reason i like mines there such a fun trol ship to use dont ask me why but i want a Mining ship in Cruiser form or dred form. why I have no clue i just like mines for some reason
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I'll take guns over mines any day, especially on a command ship. Need mines? Use the minelayer dessie (I think ICC has one ). 
I like the layouts pers, nice work 
[ This Message was edited by: Brutality on 2012-07-27 01:05 ]
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NoBoDx
Grand Admiral
Joined: October 14, 2003
Posts: 784
From: Germany / NRW
| Posted: 2012-07-27 00:37
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On 2012-07-26 19:36, Persistance *CO* wrote:
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Piercer
The Piercer is very new among the K'luth Armada. It was designed as a more versatile and durable replacement for the Worker line, however has not seen much action as of yet.
Rank: 2nd Rear Admiral
Badges: Silver Star, Gold Combat
x3 PSI Drive(AFT)
x1 Aura(FORE)
x6 Anti-Matter Torpedo(FORE,LEFT,RIGHT)
x1 Build Drone (LEFT)
x1 Supply Drone(RIGHT)
x2 Auxiliary Fusion Reactor
x1 Hyper Mass Accelerator
x2 Organic Armor(FORE)
x2 Organic Armor(LEFT)
x2 Organic Armor(RIGHT)
x2 Organic Armor(AFT)
x1 Mining Beam(FORE,AFT)
x2 Disruptor (FORE,AFT,LEFT,RIGHT)
x2 Disruptor(FORE,LEFT,RIGHT)
x1 Cloaking Device(FORE)
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i'd take one
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SpaceAdmiral
Grand Admiral
Joined: May 05, 2010
Posts: 1005
| Posted: 2012-07-27 01:35
All layouts seem nice in their own way.
ICC can support with longer range firesupport while doing utility jobs.
UGTO can support from afar with utility and fighters. Should enemies get close the cannons can drive off smaller ships.
Kluth can just torp the crud out of enemies, much like their other designs.
However, I think both supply and build drones should have global arcs as repositioning to have the person you're repping on your right all the time will be painful.
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Kenny_Naboo
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From: LobsterTown
| Posted: 2012-07-27 03:57
A question: Will their be aura-related enh?
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Mylith
Grand Admiral
Faster than Light
Joined: July 19, 2011
Posts: 507
From: Hivarin, CD+36*15693
| Posted: 2012-07-27 07:52
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On 2012-07-27 01:35, SpaceAdmiral wrote:
However, I think both supply and build drones should have global arcs as repositioning to have the person you're repping on your right all the time will be painful.
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Oops. Edited.
Glad to hear that some people like it, thanks
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| Posted: 2012-07-27 12:11
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On 2012-07-27 03:57, Kenny_Naboo[+R] wrote:
A question: Will their be aura-related enh?
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auras kinda feel like enhancements themselves. and an enhancement to improve effect of an aura (ex-captain who actually listens to fleet commands, staffing a ship command with robots) feels very stretched.
plus, auras give effect in the <10% range. you would need 2 advanced aura booster stuff for noticeable effect (which, in itself, is small... 10% of 1% is 0.1%)
only way would be through unique enhs (+20% to aura effect or similar), but after seeing that so-called makkar ship booster thingy, i dont want to see a new unique enhancement for a looooooooong time...
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GunsOfHonor
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| Posted: 2012-07-27 12:55
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On 2012-07-27 00:24, Brutality wrote:
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On 2012-07-26 21:10, Infinity *CO* wrote:
I'm very well aware of that..... BUT for some reason i like mines there such a fun trol ship to use dont ask me why but i want a Mining ship in Cruiser form or dred form. why I have no clue i just like mines for some reason
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I'll take guns over mines any day, especially on a command ship. Need mines? Use the minelayer dessie (I think ICC has one ).
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I've said this all the time the minelayer dessie sucks i want a beast mine layer with 4 or 5 mines. not some crap held together by duck tape
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Pantheon
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| Posted: 2012-07-27 12:55
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On 2012-07-27 03:57, Kenny_Naboo[+R] wrote:
A question: Will their be aura-related enh?
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No, due to how auras work this is not possible.
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Jim Starluck
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Joined: October 22, 2001
Posts: 2232
From: Cincinnati, OH
| Posted: 2012-07-27 12:59
While I appreciate the interest, we've got another set of plans for new ship layouts that are going to revolutionize the whole game. While it hasn't been entirely decided yet, the odds are good that Command Auras in general--and thus Command Cruisers won't be going in until then. In that event, the current ships in Beta are just test platforms for us to ensure the Aura system is functioning properly.
Also, Supply Drones on a Command Ship is a no-no.
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Daagda Moor
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Joined: March 26, 2009
Posts: 23
From: Deep inside Andromeda
| Posted: 2012-07-27 13:47
Command ships are support ships, are they not? Shouldnt they have the role of EW, supply, mining, and repair? Not bombing, launching fighters, being in the thick of combat. That is for the ships that they re supposedly commanding. I dont understand, if they arent just large, beefy support platforms, what it is that makes them a command platform other than a single gadget that it has that other ships don't. Is that really the difference? What am I missing?
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