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Xavier I. Agamemnon
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From: Babylon5
|  Posted: 2010-11-04 19:17
something is wrong with the ICC combat dreds becuse every time i took it out it died instently in battle with one ugto dred or the sheilds drop fast and im dead or is it jest that they always suck. im not shere
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DarkCloudd
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From: Iowa
| Posted: 2010-11-04 19:46
Despite the facts that they are the same ship type the BD and CD fly very different. UTGO is mainly a mid to close range faction. ICC is a long range faction. I do believe that the CD is a little weak in both weapons and weapon firing arcs but thats just me. If you want to be successful flying the CD fly it like a bigger slower Heavy Cruiser. stick to long range its your friend.
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The Fridge
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From: In Your Fridge, Eating your Foods.
| Posted: 2010-11-04 20:37
Pilot not ship in that description.
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Borgie
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From: close by
| Posted: 2010-11-04 21:01
also the icc combat dred is severly outgunned by a ugto battle dred. save your self the trouble and use a hvy cruiser.
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Lrd_Hunter
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Posts: 245
| Posted: 2010-11-04 22:11
Can you be more spefic on what you think is wrong with it? Cause otherwise people will assume it a good player vs bad player kindof thing
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Iwancoppa
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| Posted: 2010-11-04 22:45
Agreed. a HC will probably do more damage anyway.
Combat dred sucks, devs need to speed up their layout re-designs.
Honestly, every man and his dog out there can kill them like a snack.
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SpaceAdmiral
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| Posted: 2010-11-04 22:55
i guess this is to make up for the long range faction having the superior assault dreadnaught?
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DarkCloudd
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From: Iowa
| Posted: 2010-11-05 00:06
What do I think it needs? It needs full arc missiles, right now its only 2 per side. Less beams for a total of just 4, 2 full arc and 1 FLR and one LRA arcs. Replace the beams with more guns either, front/side or side/aft and both of the core weapons need to be FLR arcs not one FL and the other FR, since ICC only have 2 dreads that have core weapons they should be more useful on the only other ship that has them.
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Rebel Retribution
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From: Hillsboro, OR
| Posted: 2010-11-05 00:21
i agree, i love ICC but it seems the CD is lacking. Mediocre shielding at best with only a couple guns and 2 IC cannons that really do anything. Also the firing arcs on the guns are nice, gives a broadside feel, but having to face the enemy to fire both ICs is a pain and u end up trying to circle while being outgunned and outlasted.
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Gerlach
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| Posted: 2010-11-05 02:19
ICC Combat Dread is a perfect example of why ICC should use lighter ship classes when it comes to combat ships types - Heavy Cruisers and Combat Destroyers.
Mostly forward firing main guns and the lack of speed because of dread class makes it impossible to maintain what ICC combat ships need the most - range.
Even after layout change it won't be much better.
Honestly, the only 3 dreads ICC pilots should be using are:
Assault Dread - because it's the strongest melee ship and best K'luth counter
Missile Dread - fire support and bomber
Command Carrier - rarely used, but a good choice for attacks far behind enemy lines
Conclusion: If you like combat ships, use a Heavy Cruiser.
[ This Message was edited by: Gerlach on 2010-11-05 04:17 ]
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Iwancoppa
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| Posted: 2010-11-05 03:30
i think they should remove all the fighters and replace them with guns.
Honestly, who even uses the useless pieces of slot wasting poobaahs.
But, yea, they have done realy well with making ICC admiral or less stay out of dreds.
if only the battle dred and mandible sucked equally.
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Borgie
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| Posted: 2010-11-05 04:51
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On 2010-11-05 03:30, lulzypulzy*STEAK!!* wrote:
i think they should remove all the fighters and replace them with guns.
Honestly, who even uses the useless pieces of slot wasting poobaahs.
But, yea, they have done realy well with making ICC admiral or less stay out of dreds.
if only the battle dred and mandible sucked equally.
[ This Message was edited by: lulzypulzy*STEAK!!* on 2010-11-05 03:31 ]
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its only been after 483 did the combat dred really come in to its own in sucking. i think( if i remember right) it has 6 gun slots. so really its not ment for anything other then being a easy target for both cluth and ugto.
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Enterprise
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| Posted: 2010-11-05 09:54
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On 2010-11-05 04:51, Borgie wrote:
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On 2010-11-05 03:30, lulzypulzy*STEAK!!* wrote:
i think they should remove all the fighters and replace them with guns.
Honestly, who even uses the useless pieces of slot wasting poobaahs.
But, yea, they have done realy well with making ICC admiral or less stay out of dreds.
if only the battle dred and mandible sucked equally.
[ This Message was edited by: lulzypulzy*STEAK!!* on 2010-11-05 03:31 ]
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its only been after 483 did the combat dred really come in to its own in sucking. i think( if i remember right) it has 6 gun slots. so really its not ment for anything other then being a easy target for both cluth and ugto.
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Xavier I. Agamemnon
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From: Babylon5
| Posted: 2010-11-05 10:22
well ill use the heavy till they fix it or ill jest not use it most of the time. when i thought combat dred i thought strong as hell i gess not.
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NoBoDx
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| Posted: 2010-11-05 11:56
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On 2010-11-05 02:19, Gerlach wrote:
Honestly, the only 3 dreads ICC pilots should be using are:
Missile Dread - fire support and bomber
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the missle-dread is one of the biggest luth-magnets, since they are such easy preys for coaked ambushes
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