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CM7
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|  Posted: 2009-11-02 05:43
since this is so old... This was written when i was 1RA. Ive since been beat into shape by PB, and am a verry effective luth hunter, To all the noobs, Once you can get the escort dessy, its the best weapon against them.. beacons,, beams, and two eccm... cant beat that.
First off id like to say that flying around this game in the crappy icc. and ugto friggs was a freaking nightmare... die die die... thats all i ever did... and was always in combat, and outnumberd by kluth. This gave me a deep burning hatred for kluth and made me want to learn how to kill them. I spent a lot of time procuring ships and weapons that woudl kill my bug nemissis. I even went so far as to totaly disown any tech that would not help me defeat a bug.... For if you can defet the bugs, you can defete all UGTO has to offer.
In my quest to procure ships that would defreat my enemy, i found a jewl of a ship. The Combat Dessy. This ship had the firepower (if you got rid of those rediculess missles) do fend off most kluth threats. Feeling high on my new found power i challanged several kluth to one on one battles.....
In my battles i found that i was severly outmatched. I could chew down to their hull..they woudl dissapear...and come back full power.... i could have kept up that cycle for ever exept... ammo... ammo runs out on ICC...something no other faction has to deal with.
After a rew defeats i opted to fly around as thy enemy. I took a kluth Dessy..dont remember witch one.. and decimated several people in RR
Why was my advisary so powerful?
becouse not only do they get a get out of battle free card, but they also have 1100 hull points and automated armor repair....
with that being said i quickly realized what i was up against...
even a kluth frigg one on one will not ever be subdued by my combat dessy.... i dont have the ammo to.
That being said, i have killed my share of kluth players, but usualy becouse they made mistakes.
So then i was contempt with just surviving against kluth...
I had no intrest of openly going to fight them.... whats the point.. i shoot them... they shoot me... i shoot them back... they cloak and heal.... wash rinse repeat...
Next up indictors.
my only encounters with kluth indictors is when there are 5 or more kluth attacking me and a indictor stopping me from jumping out... a nightmare. and yes i have just left servers all together becouse of it. and yes i will continue to just leave when an indictor is around... why you ask?
becouse the kluth have enuff advantages over me as is without indictors.
im alway outnumberd... they always cloak and run... and they have inf ammo.. WTH would i stay around while they gain yet another advantage over me????
Fighting people is fine by me... but by no means am i gonna hand you free kills.
With all that being said... ive unlocked new toys tonight... HC and such.
so i may be thru my fear of Kluth... we shall see
one more thing... ive only ever faced ugto in combat maby 6 times the entire time ive played... i must say fighting UGTO is a much better experience.. ill even hang around an fight them against the odds...
ive never enjoyed fighing kluth..
so there it is ppl
hope this helps
[ This Message was edited by: Crows Martyr on 2010-05-19 18:50 ]
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CM7
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| Posted: 2009-11-02 05:53
i forgot to mention... im posting this in direct responce of the Fleet officers meeting.
NaM NaM NaM!! Join ICCU!
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Bardiche
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| Posted: 2009-11-02 06:17
Don't worry, a lot of players would rather fight UGTO/ICC instead of K'Luth. The Heavy Cruiser eats it to K'Luth frigates if you aren't careful, so make sure you've flown it a bit and have some experience handling it before trying to fight a battle where you're outnumbered.
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Ulven Skyblade
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From: Timbo400
| Posted: 2009-11-02 06:38
the hc is not a good ship against the luth destroyers that is something i found out the hard way they cloack way to fast to be good for you. you can't fire a singel shot at them and they eat you to the bone in a matter of minutes. if you scraped all the luth stations dreads and cruiser they would still be a very strong faction.
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Jar Jar Binks
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| Posted: 2009-11-02 09:34
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On 2009-11-02 06:38, Timbo*I* wrote:
the hc is not a good ship against the luth
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that goes for the vast majority of UGTO/ICC ships tho.
there really arent a whole lot of ships that actually work against K'luth.
but theres a lot of K'luth ships that work on pretty much anything UGTO/ICC has to offer 
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CM7
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| Posted: 2009-11-02 13:11
yes well thanks for the HC advice but im really trying to get the vets to understand why noobs might not want to do the pvp...
altho ive pretty much done pvp the whole time.... im just crazy like that...
people dont like playing a game and loosing over and over again.... witch will happen if you jump strait into sag in a frigg.
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Iwancoppa
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| Posted: 2009-11-02 13:58
Defiance, if you want i can show you sum stuff with the HC.
yea, k'luth should either lose AHR or Cloak. because at the moment they are the over powered faction(one thing that doesnt help that is their beams have no damage drop off)
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CM7
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| Posted: 2009-11-02 15:55
id love to see it
ill see you out there some time
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| Posted: 2009-11-02 18:31
The HC is a solid ship against nearly any other ship; from an EAD to a claw; it can hold its own provided you don't trap yourself. Ask other players for tips if it doesn't work out at first.
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MrSparkle
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From: mrsparkle
| Posted: 2009-11-02 18:42
You can't beat the Kluth without teamwork, which means a variety of ships working together (I will not say which since I'm Kluth). 1 on 1 you aren't going to beat them because they can just choose not to die, and if you stick around trying to 1v1 them when they're cloaking and constantly getting into a better firing position, you're being played the fool. Just jump away.
ICC have a harder time vs Kluth than UGTO, for various reasons not including the fact that ICC ships feel generally underpowered (except the combat destroyer). There's specific reasons UGTO do better vs Kluth than ICC.
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CM7
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| Posted: 2009-11-02 19:07
againg all this is helpful... but this post is about getting wolf and other fleets to realize why noobs might not be interested in pvp.
i kinda wanted other noobs to post their feelings on pvp here...
i for one love pvp tho... but like i said.. im crazy like that... i dont mind a challange.
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ADmiraLMaXimus (Bringer of Doom)
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Joined: March 09, 2002
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From: Earth
| Posted: 2009-11-02 19:32
Those who fear the kluth need to look deep inside and realize it’s not the cloak or the ahr that makes us seem overpowered....
It’s the fact that we mostly work in groups as a team and hit 1 target all at once...
we have weak armor and no sheilds ... nor can we change our armor in order to specifically fight any certain faction like (UGTO)... we also cant rotate shields to help us in combat like (ICC)
So instead we have ahr to help fix our hull and cloak to stay out of sight while we repair to fight again or in most cases it’s just to get out alive
Also if you joined as a kluth player just to see how it is and still try to use tactics you have acquired playing as ICC or UGTO
:NOTE: it’s totally different
to truly see what it is to play as kluth you must stay on for a while develop team play skills and stealth strategies and above all else you must lean to become a hit and run player... as much as everyone will say you are a coward or call you names about running away.... im afraid that is the way you must play as kluth...
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You must have the patience to wait for the opportune moment to strike no matter how long it takes and even then must be prepared to leave the battle without even hulling your opponent as a team player expect to leave the kill to the next player....
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If you can’t do the above then you will never truly know what it is to be a kluth player.
Good luck to all
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CM7
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| Posted: 2009-11-02 21:13
lol i doo respect the kluth for what they are... doesnt mean i dont get mad at em tho lol
you guys do attract most new players becouse fo the get out of battle easy button...
i myself am not saying anything should change about kluth... i think they make ecxelent bad guys.
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The Fridge
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Joined: December 13, 2008
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From: In Your Fridge, Eating your Foods.
| Posted: 2009-11-03 10:35
The Heavy Laser/Torp Ships are the best vs K'Luth, i find.
Missiles and Fighters are pretty much useless.
UGTO- Have specialized Armour for certain K'luth weapons
Assault Corvette
Assault Destroyer
Picket Destroyer - Beacon
Torpedo Cruiser
EAD
ICC- No real Armour, only rotation of shields.
Sensor Frigate - Detection
Escort Destroyer - Beacon
Assault Cruiser
Assault Dread - I'd imagine
These are what I'd use anyways.
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Zero28
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| Posted: 2009-11-03 17:16
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On 2009-11-02 19:32, ADmiraLMaXimus (Bringer of Doom) wrote:
Those who fear the kluth need to look deep inside and realize it’s not the cloak or the ahr that makes us seem overpowered....
It’s the fact that we mostly work in groups as a team and hit 1 target all at once...
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it is a fact, But ICC as the less player nearly to none Already its underpowered , it is also outnumbered, Massivly.
THe way i see it, Team work work best with Kluth, true,but why does it also work best Vs 1 on 1
They got "get out of fight free" card, They can choose whenever they wanna fight, Its easy for them to mass a single ship, In fact Kluth is probably the EASIEST Faction to have teamwork in.
"Let's just Surround that MD with 5 dreads and wait til i feel its time to blow the crap out of him"
the other factions have to plan more deeply there teamwork,
There attack angle (sometimes), Any diversion?, Long range support? Should we drag them somewhere so we can ambush them? , or should we just go Arrow spear and rush trought?
Nup you guys got 1 way to do, 1 way to think, wait til your done scratching yourself, Cloak, mass, surround, mash Spacebar 
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