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CM7
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|  Posted: 2009-10-24 16:56
hey so the road to 2A was long and hard for everyone right?
and when you get 2A your really exited!
i mean why should you not be. the first tier of cruisers is open now...
my question is this. how many of you who made 2A cept flying your combat dessy becouse the upgrade was indeed a downgrade?
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Doran
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From: The Gideon Unit
| Posted: 2009-10-24 16:59
i make to an icc all the time
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Sens [R33]
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| Posted: 2009-10-24 17:02
The ICC has the most specialised cruisers of any faction; capable of fleet support, surgical strikes, strategic raids and support. They may not be the beefiest cruisers but they do have the widest range of capabilities. That being said, the Heavy Cruiser and Assault Cruiser are on par with their UGTO counterparts.
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Sops
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| Posted: 2009-10-24 17:32
I think you could fly cruisers as a Commander when I made 2RA so I had already made the switch.
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Bardiche
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| Posted: 2009-10-24 18:24
To be fair, the ICC Combat Destroyer is ridiculously good.
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CM7
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| Posted: 2009-10-24 18:24
i did not take in account most vets have been playing since befor all the current changes...
ive not actualy flown the cruisers yet. but i went out with FTL Opposition and he had one and got totaly decimated... and were no slouches when it comes to combat
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battlecruiser3
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| Posted: 2009-10-24 22:09
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On 2009-10-24 17:02, Sensitivity wrote:
The ICC has the most specialised cruisers of any faction; capable of fleet support, surgical strikes, strategic raids and support. They may not be the beefiest cruisers but they do have the widest range of capabilities. That being said, the Heavy Cruiser and Assault Cruiser are on par with their UGTO counterparts.
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To be fair to him, he was talking about 2RA, heavy and assault aren't.
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CM7
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| Posted: 2009-10-25 13:47
so back to the original question...
how many of you made 2A and kept using your combat dessy on icc becouse the first wave of cruisers is a joke
..l.maby no one but me and FTL Opposition are doing this?
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Sens [R33]
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| Posted: 2009-10-25 13:59
Oh right, about that; yeah, the Combat Dessie is the staple vessel before the HC. Same applies for UGTO(gunbat until BC).
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battlecruiser3
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| Posted: 2009-10-25 15:21
well I just turned 1RA today, and yes I use combat dessie mainly if I want to fight. But mostly I've done other things instead, like build, bomb and sup.
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Starcommander
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From: In your base, stealing your cookies
| Posted: 2009-10-27 11:50
2nd RA was fun when you had both the dico and the old WH cruiser back in the day. ICC may have the most choices for cruisers but we also have the most useless ones too. The real only ones worth taking are HC, Dico, AC (kinda) and the carrier if your in a group. When you finally make it to cruisers you learn that those dessys were fun with lots of speed and turning and these cruisers are much slower in there turning. You can still doge but you have to start turning sooner to get out of the way. Also you can take more of a pounding too (supposedly) then before.
Anyway welcome to the 2nd RA world and your first big ships.
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From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2009-10-27 11:52
I cheat, but that's just me.
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Azreal
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| Posted: 2009-10-28 07:31
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On 2009-10-25 13:59, Sensitivity wrote:
Oh right, about that; yeah, the Combat Dessie is the staple vessel before the HC. Same applies for UGTO(gunbat until BC).
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Well, after taking a nooby tour a few months ago, specifically to try out the smaller ships (cruiser and under) of all the factions, I came to an astounding conclusion:
The Kluth Nymph, a frigate, is hands down better than virtually every ship of all factions until u can get the UGTO Torp Cruiser.
It's got better energy than a Claw, heals faster, recharges drive faster, and can alpha at higher speeds for longer. I found this to be an advantage all the way up until the Torp cruiser. And I tested both in the scenario, RR, and in Sag vs human opponents.
Hell, I hulled a Carrier Dread in the thing and forced him to jump out.
This could be partly based on my own years of experience as K'Luth, and lack of recent experience as UGTO or ICC. I'll admit that. But a nooby has none of those advantages either way. No hindight or experience with which to compare the evidence.
That said, I found the ICC Combat Destroyer to be a very nice ship. I had one hull my Krill in 3 alphas because he got in behind me, and he gave me a hell of a time. Sad thing is, it was an AI dessie. Made me feel like a total noob.
Now for some veteran advice: Every ship has a role, a purpose. If you cann't figure out what that role is, you are going to have trouble. Grabbing the biggest ship you can get is generally the worst sort of tactic. Grabbing the best ship for the situation is the Golden Rule of combat, so to speak. I have sat in the sy before for several minutes, waiting to see the light on precisely which ship will be best in a given situation. I have pulled back from an attack many times because I knew I was in the wrong ship. I have been ragged on for grabbing my Scale to battle near planets...while watching Krills get decimated because their cloak takes too long in a high signature area.
So pay special attention and make sure when u pull that cruiser, its the right time to use one.
If you choose wrong, don't worry. Respawning ships doesn't hurt you physically one little bit.
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From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2009-10-28 07:35
Some of the posts here prove exactly what we've been trying to point out all along.
Just because a cruiser is technically better than a destroyer, does not mean you are better suited to flying it, or are better at flying it.
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From: In your base, stealing your cookies
| Posted: 2009-10-28 08:18
It takes time to adjust to something that moves slower and takes longer to turn around. When I first jumped into a cruiser first thing I said was "This thing can't turn!". After a few trials by fire from combat I learned to keep moving and always keep turning left and right to keep long range ships from hitting me. A cruiser can avoid shots from around 500gu any closer and that horrible turning comes into play. Dreads are even worse but we all know that.
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