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Xydes
Grand Admiral
Joined: August 07, 2009
Posts: 276
From: England
|  Posted: 2009-10-22 05:01
Ok we all know that you can play DS till 1st Rear k? k. But what if they moved the cap to Vice Admiral ^_^ huh? huh?! Well I know what your think (NEVER NEVER IN A Trillion Years!) But what if.... WHAT IF! You could play Vice Admiral for 2 weeks then you get a feel of the Dreads the Great Dread Poping Cruisers! It would also make the More Recent Public want to sub! (great Idea or what) As a Vice Admiral (1st Rear UnSubbed) I belive this should happen! It would make a great Market plan and Everything!
-Dark Venom (Angel of Death) More Formally known as Dark Valkaryie (Angel of Death).
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JBud
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Joined: February 26, 2008
Posts: 1900
From: Behind you.
| Posted: 2009-10-22 05:19
The rank cap was carefully decided, it wont be going up anytime soon, if ever. 
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Piotr-san
Chief Marshal
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Joined: July 18, 2002
Posts: 385
From: Poland
| Posted: 2009-10-22 05:42
Personally when and if ds gets enough players id drop the rank to 2ra.
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Bardiche
Chief Marshal
Joined: November 16, 2006
Posts: 1247
| Posted: 2009-10-22 06:03
If I could become Vice Admiral without subscribing, I would have access to the Missile Dreadnought.
The Missile Dreadnought is the most iconic ship in the ICC.
The most iconic ship in any fleet is usually the best ship.
Therefore, the Missile Dreadnought is the ICC's best ship.
And therefore, we can logically deduce that as Vice Admiral I will have access to the faction's best ship.
If it stands to reason that I have access to the best ship the game has on offer, it stands to further reason that I have no need to subscribe.
Consider the following: ICC and UGTO have Vice Admiral Dreadnoughts. K'Luth does not.
However.
Two out of three have a VA Dreadnought.
Therefore, the average can be deduced as Since we supposite that any amount that is not a whole amount is no amount (after all, 1.66 humans is 1 human effectively), we can therefore declare that the average is zero Dreadnoughts at VA Rank.
We can then further deduce that ICC and UGTO are above average on their count of Dreadnoughts available at VA Rank, and thus they are unbalanced.
As a result, I believe it important to move the two VA Dreadnoughts on ICC and UGTO to a higher rank to make the amount of VA Dreadnoughts equal for all factions, since we cannot have inequality.
We can then look at your proposal, and declare that your advantage would be one Cruiser on average, since you have
We can then conclude that I have no idea where I'm going with this, but hopefully this bout of (il)logical jumps will show you the same problem I am having with understanding the reasoning behind giving more content to free players in lieu of giving more content to subscribing players.
[ This Message was edited by: Bardiche on 2009-10-22 06:04 ]
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Azreal
Chief Marshal
Joined: March 14, 2004
Posts: 2816
From: United State of Texas, Houston
| Posted: 2009-10-22 06:13
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On 2009-10-22 05:19, JBud wrote:
The rank cap was carefully decided, it wont be going up anytime soon, if ever.
[ This Message was edited by: JBud on 2009-10-22 05:20 ]
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Sops
Marshal
Galactic Navy
Joined: March 07, 2004
Posts: 490
| Posted: 2009-10-22 10:00
Lets just bump the rank cap up to Grand Admiral while we are at it.
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Pegasus
Grand Admiral
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Joined: August 02, 2005
Posts: 434
From: Eleventh galaxy on the right!
| Posted: 2009-10-22 10:26
It is fine as it is, a fleet of cruisers can rule the MV.
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CM7
Midshipman
Faster than Light
Joined: October 15, 2009
Posts: 1812
| Posted: 2009-10-22 12:43
i already dont want to pay until i get 1A... so if you rais the cap.. id feel like i got to make it there first befor paying..
what you guys need is perks only availible to paying players.
ship enhancements maby? new skins? upgraded weopons? idk but something.
as is the ony thing i cant do is join a fleet.
ill have 1A in about 3 more weeks tho.. so then ill sub
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Xydes
Grand Admiral
Joined: August 07, 2009
Posts: 276
From: England
| Posted: 2009-10-22 13:06
Ok to the last post on this Page there are Ship Enhancements  Secondly I quote myself:- "They get to use Dreads for like 2weeks then they get dropped back to 1st RA."- So you dont have to wait till Va to sub when you can do it at any time... PLease Read the post carefully its like you look at the first line and go Nope lets right something negative.... It feels like that to me.
-Dark Valkaryie (Angel of Death)
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Sops
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Galactic Navy
Joined: March 07, 2004
Posts: 490
| Posted: 2009-10-22 14:24
I read it all.
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Bardiche
Chief Marshal
Joined: November 16, 2006
Posts: 1247
| Posted: 2009-10-22 14:51
Your post seemed to suggest, "If you've played as a Dreadnought popping small Cruisers for two weeks, you'll want to sub", which was perceived by me to be an argument of the nature of "If you spend x amount of time doing y, you'll do z to gain extras with which to do y better/easier/harder/faster".
Giving people any extra free things in lieu of giving subscribed players more for their money still seems like a decidedly bad marketing decision.
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battlecruiser3
Vice Admiral
Joined: August 26, 2003
Posts: 6
| Posted: 2009-10-22 14:51
I already don't feel like paying until I get to the end of 1RA (and hopefully with a larger player base). No need to make it even higher otherwise I really have no reason to pay.
(I think it should drop to 2RA in fact)
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CM7
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Joined: October 15, 2009
Posts: 1812
| Posted: 2009-10-22 16:27
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On 2009-10-22 13:06, Dark Valkaryie (Angel of Death) wrote:
Ok to the last post on this Page there are Ship Enhancements Secondly I quote myself:- "They get to use Dreads for like 2weeks then they get dropped back to 1st RA."- So you dont have to wait till Va to sub when you can do it at any time... PLease Read the post carefully its like you look at the first line and go Nope lets right something negative.... It feels like that to me.
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first i am humble and not trying to gut anyone.
second. make enhancements only availible to subscribed players.
maby give free accounts minor ones but make others unavailable till pay.
i dont see how giving more perks to paying players will be a negitive sells plan...
it would just make me want to sub befor 1A to get the upgraded stuff.
as i see it right now the only thing subing does is let me fly dreads and stations... and join a fleet.
thats to little insintive i think.
dont wory guys im hooked as i can be and i will sub as soon as i reach 1A... unless i had something to sub for befor then...
get it?
again i am humble and not trying to bash anyone.
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Julian Delphiki
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Joined: June 19, 2002
Posts: 171
| Posted: 2009-10-22 16:45
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On 2009-10-22 16:27, FTL Defiance wrote:
make enhancements only availible to subscribed players.
maby give free accounts minor ones but make others unavailable till pay.
I have to agree with this one, more reasons to sub are always good
i dont see how giving more perks to paying players will be a negitive sells plan...
I dont remember anyone saying giving more to paying players was a negative marketing plan, I believe someone mentioned that giving free players more was the bad idea
and i will sub as soon as i reach 1A... unless i had something to sub for befor then...
get it?
We should think of something else to limit to free or give to paying to make more incentive to subscribe before reaching VA. Though atm, it would most likely take a bit of work by F to implement anything else like that, and I would like to bet that more people want the dev time on something like fixing bugs etc than something like this
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CM7
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Joined: October 15, 2009
Posts: 1812
| Posted: 2009-10-22 17:59
agreed
im glad u at least see my side of things
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