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Pope
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Joined: June 11, 2002
Posts: 2449
From: World of tomorrow
|  Posted: 2009-07-02 18:17
ELF.
Why?
I have had from day one of the trial the feeling that ELF did -- nothing.
I've tested it now under somewhat controlled conditions.
Siphon gained from ELFing a Mandi about... 3 units of energy (three).
about 1 or so is spent recharging the ELFs.
That's three beams mind you.
I've tested it on a friendly engi, who reported no weapon decharge and no energy loss whatsoever.
My conclusion: ELF does nothing. Convince me of the opposite.
Why? How did this pass beta?
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Joined: September 29, 2002
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From: Arlington, VA
| Posted: 2009-07-02 18:37
Haven't you heard? Devs hate kluth
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spatula
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Joined: May 28, 2005
Posts: 41
From: 192.168.1.1
| Posted: 2009-07-02 18:57
it may not give too much but it certainly helps drain a good amount from the enemy, especialy if they
a.) are already losing energy due to combat
b.) icc because unless they are perfectly still and/or have shields off the energy regen is slow
i havent piloted an elf ship recently but i have been attacked by a few siphons, and the energy drain on a combat dread already fighting is quite effective. I like to think of the elf like the emp, a tactical weapon used mainly to impair rather than kill your enemies, but without the all systems instant down ability.
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From: Shadows
| Posted: 2009-07-02 19:16
ive used the elf a few times and ive found that it does absolutly....nothing
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Joined: May 31, 2002
Posts: 1352
From: Clean room lab
| Posted: 2009-07-02 20:31
Elf used to drain very good energy from enemies at the begining of 1.5. Ugto whined and they drop it's drain rate.
*Search for uber elf beam topics if they arent deleted yet..
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Azreal
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Joined: March 14, 2004
Posts: 2816
From: United State of Texas, Houston
| Posted: 2009-07-02 21:22
Energy Leach Field. Means it's supposed to take from enemy and give to you - and it should give more than it uses otherwise it is pointless.
If EMP was worthy of jacking up through the roof, why is ELF, a Kluth factional specialty, nerfed to uselessness? I mean, in a scale yesterday, I got hit with 2 - count them, 2 shots hitting my hull, I lost 100% of systems for 10 secs. That's cloak, engines, jumpdrive...it's ridiculas. From 2 little balls of EMP I failed to dodge.
Personally, if ELF is to stay the way it is, I'd prefer we just drop them and give us disrupters in those slots instead. They are THAT pointless.
Are we supposed to be taking turns in ranting? Why am I just now finding this out??????
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From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2009-07-03 06:23
It hasn't been changed for quite some time, so I have no idea why it's suddenly been reduced to its current form (perhaps a side affect of removing its 'unloading weapons' effect). It might be a side affect of some other recent changes, but rest assured, we are looking into it, and it has been brought up.
At some point (if I can get a hold of Drafell) it will be changed, it's most deffinately meant to leech a small, but ample, amount of energy from the enemy ship.
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From: Eleventh galaxy on the right!
| Posted: 2009-07-03 07:20
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From: Zeebrugge, belgium
| Posted: 2009-07-03 07:23
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| Posted: 2009-07-03 08:28
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Azreal
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From: United State of Texas, Houston
| Posted: 2009-07-03 09:20
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It hasn't been changed for quite some time, so I have no idea why it's suddenly been reduced to its current form...
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We have complained about it before, it isn't new. Its just that somebody started "officially" testing it, and posted some rants. Its been bunk since I came back in December. I don't think it is anything new that caused it. The other thing that has brought out the complaints is the jacked up EMP, which has made K'luthies question "what the hell happened to our ELF beams!!!!"
In otherwords, its just become more of a vocalized issue. But not a new one.
Is this more on topic for you?
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From: Bristol, England
| Posted: 2009-07-03 09:40
This thread is about ELF's, and the issues with them, not about something else.
Please keep on topic. I have no issues deleting posts that aren't on-topic within reason.
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