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Sauur Chief Marshal Praetorian Wolves
Joined: November 30, 2004 Posts: 475
| Posted: 2009-03-04 02:48  
There is a good chance this will be put down to desync ... but this issue has been around for a long time now and we have been working around it.
K'luth ship unlcoaks - Alpha's - Recloak - Target ship takes zero damage - on top of the time it takes us to unlcloak through eccm nets up to well set traps put in place by tha meat bags I think this bug has eventually got to come to the top of the list of things to fix. We have been very tolerant of this bug.
I can replicate this at least 80% of the time. This is alot of lost damage for all K'luth
The K'luth main advantage is meant to be a surprise attack - for a couple of months now I have been needing to count 2 secs after decloak to give maximum chance of doing damage negating the normal desync damage issues.
Could this be bumped up on the list please?
I have logged and relogged and relogged..... today and worst connection has been in the 150 ms range. I can still get it on immediate decloak.
Am I the only regular K'luth getting this?
Edit - Their are possibly many players who do not realise this occurring to them - whether they be new to K'luth - never watched the damage from their first shot or have just spawned from SY or gate and fired. If I did not particularly look for it I doubt I would realise it was occurring. [ This Message was edited by: Sauur on 2009-03-04 02:58 ]
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Pegasus Grand Admiral Pitch Black
Joined: August 02, 2005 Posts: 434 From: Eleventh galaxy on the right!
| Posted: 2009-03-04 05:19  
I agree with you Sauur that it is still sometimes there, I have gotten use to the habit of mentally counting 1-2 seconds before launching an alpha strike after I uncloak or Point jump on my prey.
Would be nice if there can be a fix for it, it certainly limits the role of what the K'luth are designed to be.
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Sauur Chief Marshal Praetorian Wolves
Joined: November 30, 2004 Posts: 475
| Posted: 2009-03-04 05:42  
Heya brother,
All my SY ships are setup to allow for this bug rather than outputing an all out alpha strike upon decloak - to me this is quite unacceptable - all K'luth are missing out on the true hit and run love that we should be giving to the hooman tear makers.
Good luck with the faction change mate - I miss ur wing
S'r
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Pegasus Grand Admiral Pitch Black
Joined: August 02, 2005 Posts: 434 From: Eleventh galaxy on the right!
| Posted: 2009-03-04 05:50  
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Good luck with the faction change mate - I miss ur wing
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Oh I just went for a Galaxy stroll, now back on K'luth.
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Enterprise Chief Marshal Raven Warriors
Joined: May 19, 2002 Posts: 2576 From: Hawthorne, Nevada
| Posted: 2009-03-04 06:20  
This doesn't just happen to you. This happens to me most of the time on Kluth, but I've gotten into the habit of waiting a couple of seconds after I uncloak to make sure.
This also sometimes happens if you attack right after you come out of jump.
-Ent
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Reek Havoc *XO* Chief Marshal Interstellar Cultural Confederation United
Joined: June 23, 2005 Posts: 327 From: Philadelphia
| Posted: 2009-03-04 06:51  
Hint: Count 1, 2, 3, as you see your cloak go offline and then mash your spacebar. It's not a bug, it's desync and it is at the top of the list of fixes according to Jack. Same thing happens to ICC ships and point jumping with an AD and we don't have cloak. It is not a cloak bug as I see it.
-RH
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Nim * Chief Marshal Courageous Elite Commandos
Joined: September 05, 2004 Posts: 295
| Posted: 2009-03-04 06:56  
This doesnt just happen to kluth. I noticed this happening on UGTO as well. As soon as you come out of jump and shoot someone, the guns do 0 damage. So I doubt the problem is to do with cloak but is to do with something else that affects all factions!
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Sauur Chief Marshal Praetorian Wolves
Joined: November 30, 2004 Posts: 475
| Posted: 2009-03-04 07:00  
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On 2009-03-04 06:51, Fatal Reek Havoc *AXO* wrote:
Hint: Count 1, 2, 3, as you see your cloak go offline and then mash your spacebar. It's not a bug, it's desync and it is at the top of the list of fixes according to Jack. Same thing happens to ICC ships and point jumping with an AD and we don't have cloak. It is not a cloak bug as I see it.
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Appreciate the response mate.
I suspected other faction may also have been copping a bad side to this bug as well
As stated the count is what we as regular K'luth have been doing as a rule - though I believe due to the nature of what the K'luth are about (this is not a point worth arguing on) we may be affected more than other factions. The fact that ALL factions are affected though brings more relevance to the issue I believe.
Cheers Reek & Nim* ( snuck that in as I posted ) --> Edit
[ This Message was edited by: Sauur on 2009-03-04 07:02 ]
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Eledore Massis [R33] Grand Admiral Templar Knights
Joined: May 26, 2002 Posts: 2695 From: tsohlacoLocalhost
| Posted: 2009-03-04 08:11  
I usually look at my signature. when its no longer rising i still wait a extra second and fire..
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DarkScorpion Marshal Sanity Assassins
Joined: September 14, 2004 Posts: 237 From: London England
| Posted: 2009-03-04 10:01  
I agree that the point jump sillyness has to us all and the kltuh more so than others due to the nature and setup of our faction 2 seconds amy seem like nothing but two seconds can make a differance 1% and no hull
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Pakhos[+R] Chief Marshal Pitch Black
Joined: May 31, 2002 Posts: 1352 From: Clean room lab
| Posted: 2009-03-04 11:54  
after point jump or decloak, happens same for me. Really need tow ait to sync with server a few seconds.
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MrSparkle Marshal
Joined: August 13, 2001 Posts: 1912 From: mrsparkle
| Posted: 2009-03-04 14:47  
I get this a lot too. Pair the countdown to avoid it with the long uncloak times due to eccm and you're looking at a lot of damage being taken before you can return fire.
It's the reason you don't see me try to do it very often.
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ssj4megaman Grand Admiral
Joined: January 06, 2003 Posts: 54 From: San Diego
| Posted: 2009-03-04 21:13  
i think also if the sync issue is finally fixed then missiles wont suck major donkey kong.... but actually 2 days ago we had a nice battle with icc near loakmay and i saw our luthie dread uncloak and shoot a destroyer and 2 full alpha's no dmg registered on it and on the 3rd alpha finally dmg started to register..
this may also be whats happening when we see an ead taking on 5000 dreads and surviving.... this bug is also really really old too. Maybe new servers are needed? start a fund?
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Sens [R33] Admiral
Joined: September 27, 2008 Posts: 1020 From: Edge of th...
| Posted: 2009-03-04 21:34  
servers are near top of the line atm
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killer2472 *Nightrain* Grand Admiral *Renegade Space Marines*
Joined: February 07, 2006 Posts: 21 From: killer2472
| Posted: 2009-03-04 21:43  
just a thought, how about making psi missiles only come out of planetary defense bases as single shots, not two missiles moving along the same trajectory, and simply up the damage on them to compensate. That might alleviate some of the servers' load in terms of only having to calculate for one missile instead of the pair of 'em.
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