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Ants
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Joined: February 11, 2005
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From: Canada
|  Posted: 2008-10-15 10:46
Just 2 questions
First question,
Do you gain Prestige for doing system damage?
And second.
Why is the pulse beam range so short for?
Yesterday i noticed that when being atacked by ranged fighter attacks the fighters break off before they enter the range of the pule beams range.
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Delando
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| Posted: 2008-10-15 10:57
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On 2008-10-15 10:46, Fatal Ants *XO* wrote:
First question,
Do you gain Prestige for doing system damage?
And second.
Why is the pulse beam range so short for?
Yesterday i noticed that when being atacked by ranged fighter attacks the fighters break off before they enter the range of the pule beams range.
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which ship were u in? and could u actively target the fighters? or only see their fire?
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Ants
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From: Canada
| Posted: 2008-10-15 11:36
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On 2008-10-15 10:57, BeamMeAllUWant(AllReflectives) wrote:
which ship were u in? and could u actively target the fighters? or only see their fire?
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was in an ICC Command Station, Yes i could target the fighters, My CL laser could PD hem but the point of Pulse beams is to do that as a defencive messure.
And also had to turn on my CL lasers for PD after noticing the pulse beams would not work at that range.
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Russian Roulette with Muskets
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| Posted: 2008-10-16 09:40
In regard to pulse beams: with their range being low as it is, they dont do much good. they may kill the first 2 missiles but the other 4 will hit you since their travel time from point of interception to your hull is like 1 second.
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Jim Starluck
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From: Cincinnati, OH
| Posted: 2008-10-16 09:50
Personally, I've always been annoyed that point-defense beams only fire one at a time unless there's a whole lot of missiles or fighters nearby. Makes them vastly less effective, especially Pulse Beams.
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NiteHawk
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From: Sag Hothha
| Posted: 2008-10-16 09:51
I think pulse beams should be a tad longer in range, and perhaps fire quicker in sessons while in PD mode (for example it will target missiles quicker alot quicker then lets say a CL laser).
I also think range should be different depending on the size of the ship. I am guessing the size of the ship might affect how PD is working, depending on the radius of the ship and where it is mounted.
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Ants
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From: Canada
| Posted: 2008-10-16 19:13
Still looking for answers to the 2 questions.
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Mithrandir
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| Posted: 2008-10-16 20:15
No
Tradeoffs
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Ants
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From: Canada
| Posted: 2008-10-16 20:24
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On 2008-10-16 20:15, Mithrandir wrote:
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Answer 1 sweet
answer 2 thats a rip off.
Thanks
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Leonide
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From: Newport News, Virginia
| Posted: 2008-10-17 00:34
the tradeoff is this: CL laser is supposed to be an offensive weapon, higher power for a longer recharge time. Pulse beams supposed to have low power, short recharge time.
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Ants
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From: Canada
| Posted: 2008-10-17 11:32
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On 2008-10-17 00:34, leonide *FM*{Recruiting} wrote:
the tradeoff is this: CL laser is supposed to be an offensive weapon, higher power for a longer recharge time. Pulse beams supposed to have low power, short recharge time.
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The tradeoff is BS. Its not the recharge time that is the problem.
The problem is that the "DEFENSIVE" point defence pulse beams that are the Defensive factions point defence dose not work in fighters and hardly on missiles.
Why and how is it a tradeoff to making the defensive faction not so different form UGTO's PD?
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JBud
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From: Behind you.
| Posted: 2008-10-17 11:38
more power more range i often mod my ICC ships with half pulse beams and half chem beams to get a nice balance of point defence range
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Ants
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From: Canada
| Posted: 2008-10-17 12:20
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On 2008-10-17 11:38, JBud wrote:
more power more range i often mod my ICC ships with half pulse beams and half chem beams to get a nice balance of point defence range
[ This Message was edited by: JBud on 2008-10-17 11:39 ]
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Sorry i may be a bit ignorant here. But defensive faction to be defensive Pulse beams is a short burst point defence weapon, Meaning that we use the pulse beams in place of CL lasers to defend our ships/planets/stations. For defensive purposes the pulse beam should be at a max range to destroy as many missiles and fighters as possible. They are useless on any station unless the fighters are passing you to do to a target behind you. Also on dreads and cursers, the beam only comes slightly past the shields giving no real affect. When all other factions could use the pulse beams last patch they were proper range.
I am not saying there is a power issues with ICC but I am saying that the Defensive balance in pulse beams are useless if I must use full power CL laser for my Point defence.
The bottom line I am trying to make is the ICC ships use a lot of power in combat, Shields are not the only defensive part of ICC. Like every faction with there perks pulse beams are useless. UGTO and K’luth use disruptors and CL lasers for PD and ICC have the benefit of pulse beams that do not defend the ship 9 out of 10 times.
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Delando
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| Posted: 2008-10-17 13:39
Hmm, was just wondering. How much more effective were the pulse laser designed to be? can the dev team answer this? some thing like 20% 30%?
Also, i dont think sym damg should give additional presg. I did a test yesterday by hulling a plat and just kept fluxing it to see if that stop the weapons from firing.
If it could become a way of farming press for ugto players, since u can flux the thing for ever and not kill it.
this maybe the same reason Ship capture for Plats and Starport trannys are turned off.
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Sixkiller
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| Posted: 2008-10-18 04:49
Looking at this, maybe the range of the pulse beam should increase a bit more for its level?
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