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Lysol
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Joined: September 04, 2005
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|  Posted: 2006-03-29 01:55
When the damn population is 100% UTGO and We are camped by them 24/7 using core weapons to kill off our frigs and transports... whats the point...
I really hate every single UTGO...as far as i am concerned, anyone who flies Uggie I will automatically think they are using bugged ships. bombwhoreing, or camping. You get no respect from me. There is a difference between taking the systems and griefing the players. So no more.
[ This Message was edited by: Lysol on 2006-03-29 01:58 ]
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GothThug {C?}
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| Posted: 2006-03-29 02:01
Then you are sadly mistaken Lysol, im a uggie because 1. Better Ships can withstand Disruptes, 2. Teamwork 3. More organised and 4. the fact that we hate you (just kidding about that last part) but yeah basically its TEAMWORK and none of the kluth or ICC have that!
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Lysol
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| Posted: 2006-03-29 02:06
When you have the majority of the servers population you can use that "team work" excuse till you turn BLUE
Because there is always at least 4 UTGO players that are dread capable....MV had 20+ players...3 where kluth, 4 were ICC...
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Lysol
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| Posted: 2006-03-29 02:44
Whew i feel better now....
Creamed Kluth goes great with lightly toasted bagels with a honey butter topping
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rangar
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| Posted: 2006-03-29 03:26
one of the reasons that alot of people are uggy is because, quite frankly, they have the best non-subscribed ships around. people start out as uggy because they're not willing to subscribe just yet, and uggy do have the better ships (kluth have pretty much nothing; ICC do have the sensor corvette which is nice when you mod it with aux though) and since they're already in fleets that are ugto, when people do decide to subscribe, chances are they're not going to change fleets.
but i do agree that perhaps a bit more balancing is needed, either by giving ICC and K'Luth (specially luthy) better midshipman ships
*notes that Luthy ships are uber-good and extremely evil*
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Peter Wiggin
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| Posted: 2006-03-29 05:00
I have to agree with the teamwork part. I have rarely seen ICC or kluth use teamwork(kluth more often)
By the way, almost the whole day there were 30 players in mv, 14-15 ugto.. and no ICC or kluth were to be seen.. anywhere.. until we started capping icc planets, then a bunch of frigs and scouts came out.
Anyways, ugto have the teamwork and can fight against kluth more easily than ICC.. every faction has good and bad
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Smartin
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| Posted: 2006-03-29 05:47
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On 2006-03-29 05:00, [VA]Divine~Wind -(Rogue)- {Recruiting} wrote:
I have to agree with the teamwork part. I have rarely seen ICC or kluth use teamwork(kluth more often)
By the way, almost the whole day there were 30 players in mv, 14-15 ugto.. and no ICC or kluth were to be seen.. anywhere.. until we started capping icc planets, then a bunch of frigs and scouts came out.
Anyways, ugto have the teamwork and can fight against kluth more easily than ICC.. every faction has good and bad
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This is not meant to flame anyone:
Lets break down this idea of UGTO having better teamwork - You guys dont have to try what so ever to work together. You beat us with sheer numbers. Ugto does have some decent players but they seem to be lost as well in my opinion. When its usally always a 4 to 1 ratio w/ dictor i dont think you have to be a genius to press teh J key and the pound teh space bar.
The fact that you dont see any klut/icc on - Honestly I beleive it is due to the reason stated above. Out numbered and dictor killing is just no fun for anyone else. You dont see kluth anymore cause after talking with a bunch of them they dont see the point of even recaping planets anymore. I dont blame them.
Player base of lately - has been going down. To be honest there are a select few that I actually am glad to see on anymore and one of them quit last night.
For all the people that claim ugto are just the better faction..... fly as kluth or icc and get a kill against a fleet of ships. That takes teamwork and skill and planning. We can't run in full blown and just mash space bar we all have to do our part or we will all die.
I guess when the UGTO have no one left to fight they will be happy. I know its becomming harder and harder for me to find the drive to keep going into the MV. My love for the game is their either way now. Weather I play or just chat with some players I have known as friends. I thank everyone who has made this game so great but for the love of god lets do something to fix it. I fear this next patch will be to little to late.
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Nimitz
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Joined: April 19, 2005
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From: Melbourne, Australia
| Posted: 2006-03-29 06:07
Lysol,
If you think that every UGTO player is using a bugged ship, you're sadly mistaken buddy. From my experience, it has been newbies on Kluth and ICC. What should I think about that? That every player in those two factions use bugged ships? Do you think that is logical? It's not because I know players in those factions and I KNOW they will NEVER use bugged ships. You know how I know? It's something called trust, which is becoming scarce now, even worse with posts like yours.
Why do you think UGTO has the most players? Because its ships are more newbie friendly (granted ICC can be a bit easier with the shields) but it is also because it fits the playing style of most players. Take Quake TF or CS for example as games, there you spawn, run around get a few upgrades and you're off to fight. Same as UGTO, they're the faction that is meant to battle it out.
ICC on the other hand, is more defensive, hence shields, pulse beams and their offensive damage is lower. Kluth have the cloak and quite strong weapons but their play style rarely suit anyone, even I find it hard to play Kluth cause I'm not used to sneak attacks.
However, all is not lost. I have seen great players in ICC and Kluth, and given any chance, they'll kick my butt, uber UGTO ship or not. So, stop yaking about this and that and get to learn each faction, their strengths and weaknesses and how to fly each one. THEN decide which one suits you the best. If you persist on one, you've got to adapt, not the other players adapt for you.
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Joined: February 16, 2004
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From: South Philly
| Posted: 2006-03-29 06:25
I believe what hes trying to say is that between the sheer numbers of UGTO faction hoppers, and the classes of ships that they fly they might as well be cheating, because it would be just another reason that hes not playing anymore. I feel exactly the same way. As far as I'm concerned every single UGTO out there can nuke and slot mod and lag abuse to their hearts content, I won't be doing a single thing about it.
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Nimitz
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| Posted: 2006-03-29 06:46
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On 2006-03-29 06:25, Coeus [CSS Morningstar] wrote:
I believe what hes trying to say is that between the sheer numbers of UGTO faction hoppers, and the classes of ships that they fly they might as well be cheating
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I got that, what do you want us to do about it? Hand-hold the new player's hands? You know the kind of newbies we get these days, do you really think we can tell them what to do? Sure, some vets also use that, but it's even harder to tell them off.
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I feel exactly the same way. As far as I'm concerned every single UGTO out there can nuke and slot mod and lag abuse to their hearts content, I won't be doing a single thing about it.
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*sigh*. Well, I guess there's no more trust around then, so I should just remove all of my integrity and fly every bugged ship I can find. NOT!!!!!
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DOM700 [-IMO-]
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From: Eckental, Germany, Sol-System
| Posted: 2006-03-29 06:50
Just write down the names of uggies who are now playing UGTO and change faction after the patch...
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Durlan Katz
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| Posted: 2006-03-29 07:30
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On 2006-03-29 06:50, DOM700 [-IMO-] wrote:
Just write down the names of uggies who are now playing UGTO and change faction after the patch...
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already got a nice long list going:)
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newbie k'luth? you mean the ones that try luth out, get killed in a second then go UGTO?
i have yet to see a newbie play k'luth for longer than a week, why?
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yes, k'luth is a dead faction, more or less...and the reason?
i'll give you guess, it begins with a M and ends with v
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Nimitz
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| Posted: 2006-03-29 07:40
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already got a nice long list going:)
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Wonder how since the new patch isn't live yet...
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newbie k'luth? you mean the ones that try luth out, get killed in a second then go UGTO?
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Not this player, he's still Kluth.
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Durlan Katz
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| Posted: 2006-03-29 07:50
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read and understand buddy
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who? who started as luth newbie and is luth still? and i mean 1.483 newbie
*edit: a bit of cleaning up
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Joined: March 18, 2004
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From: Maryland, U.S.A
| Posted: 2006-03-29 08:36
My opinion on this is don't give up on the MV just because you're outnumbered. Take me for instance.... I might be playing UGTO right now but that's just because their ships suit my play style better this patch. But, if I had to go ICC or Kluth, I would. Over my 2 years here in DS I've played all 3 factions and know each factions' ship's strengths and weaknesses. You can ask anyone here in DS.... if 481 or 482 was still the version being played I'd be playing ICC because my playstyle fit better with ICC in those versions.
The ICC ships now are a little too defensive for my taste with this patch. And I know they are a defensive faction but every faction needs a little firepower in their arsenal. In the previous 2 versions the ICC's firepower came from the assault cruiser and the assault dread. Both of which in this patch use horrible amounts of energy and just don't do enough damage to suit my playstyle. Now, on the otherhand you have the UGTO which have always been offensive and the kluth which are hit and run specialists. The UGTO ships have one major weakness.... their armor is'nt all that great especially in the rear. The kluth I can't really speak for as I have'nt played them much this patch. Like a few others have said.... play each faction for a week in MV and get to know all the ships and what they and can't do and what the weaknesses are. And then decide what faction suits you and stick with it.
If they put a cap on the playerbase or something and made everyone choose a particular faction to stick with and play only as that faction in MV I'd pick ICC. My reasons for picking ICC... are.... I know what their ships can and can't do, I'm relatively good at rotating shields and detting torps, and just because I started out playing as ICC and enjoyed playing as ICC because of the fact they are underdogs (most of the time).
So, in conclusion don't let the fact that you're outnumbered on a daily basis get to ya. Just if it gets to ya.. take a break for a few hours and come back on. Alot has changed in this game and it will continue to change as new patches come out.... for some of us change is a bad thing. For me it was a bad thing.... 483 brought many new changes to the playstyle of DS which I don't care for. But, I've figured something out.... the game changes but the players don't. Many people that were using cheap tactics back in 482 are still gonna use them or find new ones to use with a new patch. Anyways, I think that's all I have to say... might just be alot of rambling on but if one person understands what I'm saying I'll be happy  I'm gonna let my sub run out and then it's back to being inactive on the ICC until the new patch comes out. when it does I'll try it to see how it is... but, this game has changed a bit too much for me. I'm just gonna stick around to chat with everyone I know here.
Last words.... and these are for Lysol. You don't have to play the game to have fun. You can come in the lobby and chat to have a good time. That's about it....
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