On 2005-08-13 17:22, Valerius{DK} wrote:
ok ent... i didnt read through your entire post since the lameness just shined from it.

On 2005-08-13 17:22, Valerius{DK} wrote:
ok ent... i didnt read through your entire post since the lameness just shined from it.

Smaller ships shouldnt be allowed to engage larger vessels and win? Why not? they do it so sloly the large ship can just warp off if need be.

Bomber Dread is too powerful? Its a DREADNOUGHT and its got BOMBS TO MATCH..... ICC planets get leveled by lone Ganglias all the time lately, why dont you pick on them?

MD with 20 torps... shoot back damnit... its made of PAPER.......

But the best of all. Large ships should be used to fight off other large ships. If large ships could take out small ships by just frowning at them, do you think anyone would be flying a scout? EVER? It takes effort and teamplay to take down a mixed fleet. Any noob can take down a fleet of ACs if they know what they are doing

Val

Typical ICC response...

A.) If a single smaller warship (like a destroyer) can single handedly take on, and win against a larger warship (such as a Dreadnought) then what exactly is the point to flying a Dreadnought?

B.) No one ship was meant to level a planet, no matter what faction.

C.) MDs are NOT paper thin, I in a siphon, could not get through a MD's shield before he got to my hull. In a team you say? I watched a MD take on 3 Kluth dreadnoughts and win.

And finnally...

D.) Shouldent same hold true for smaller ships? If every Escort Destroyer could take down a Battle Dreadnought just by frowning on it, do you think anyone would ever want to fly a larger ship? EVER? How about next week? The answer is No. Why? Because why get a larger, more prestige costing ship when you can get a smaller one to do the same job for you.




-Ent

1)
Wherent you ICC yesterday? I find it very disturbing that you apparently had to SWITCH faction to make these comments.

A)
You didnt listen apparently, Dreads are supposed to attack other dreads... they may take dmg from a smaller vessel, but that takes A LOT of time!!

B)
I agree with you. But there is absolutely no point in blaming it on the ICC bomber dread since the problem isnt with the bomber... the problem lies with the MIRVS which are indeed common to every other race......
ICC has always had the best bombers.... deal with it like you used to and stop moaning about it...

C)
Did you try and 'out arch' it? It turns slowly..... its rear is VERY vulnerable..... If it took on 3 Dreads and the 3 Dreads didnt position themselves in a triangle around the ship then I say too bad.... you should get better pilots then....

D)
Sure, then fly smaller ships... but they cant take down larger ships by frowning at them, again... it takes TIME
Besides that, there is more prestige to be gained while flying bigger ships due to the increased damage ouput and also just the fact that a dread is freaking huge

Appendix)
Stop moaning about them being better at that then you and start making up some tactics that work against them instead...

Bomber dread is toooo big with toooo many bombs? I just lost mine to a single enemy dread without getting any bombs through at all....

MD is tooo big with toooo many torps? Torps move slowly and dont do nearly as much splash damage then hit damage so MOVE AROUND... preferably in cruisers which means... get a dictor

Ion Cannon is tooo big and does toooo much damage? I've outrun the QST in a dread.... all Core weapons do roughly equal damage and move equally as well. As far as i know the only difference is in reload time, reload cost and damage type (one may be good against shields but stinks against armor and vice versa... again, not sure about that since i havent been able to test the core weps in depth yet)

On 2005-08-13 18:32, N'Kra The Wolf {C?} wrote:
if anyone bothered to read the ICC's bomber dread description, it literally says "this ship was designed to nearly single handedly destroy planets". the reason it does so so effectively is because of the threshhold glitch. once the glitch is fixed, it wont be nearly as bad. it is, yes, supposed to "destroy" a planet in the sense of neatly taking out the key structures, the threshhold glitch means it takes ALL the structures instead. once its all fixed up, the bomber dread wont wipe your planets, but youll probably still be pissed about it, because itll be destroying your domes and generators instead.

secondly, the entire POINT to the recent patch was to make small ships capable of surviving. why can a small ship take on a big ship? BECAUSE THEYRE SUPPOSED TO. thats the point to having small ships WITH your big ships. to shoot the OTHER small ships. the idea is to balance your fleet to the enemies, so either fleet can field a mix of heavy or light ships. if they have heavy ships, you can either get your own heavy ships and duke it out, or take a thoughtful approach and use small ships which they wont be able to hit enough to kill.